ADSM-L

Re: Macintosh experiences

2015-10-04 17:38:07
Subject: Re: Macintosh experiences
From: Paul Zarnowski <vkm AT CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL DOT EDU>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> I concur with Jim on all of his points.  With v2, we used a public domain
> utility called 'cron' which has a very small memory footprint.  We used it
> to start up the ADSM Scheduler at night, and used the schedcompleteaction
> quit option to cause the scheduler to quit after it ran.  We would prefer
> to drop this in favor of the new ADSM Scheduler Daemon in v3, but as Jim
> indicated it does not work.  We also opened a PMR on this and were told
> that it would not be fixed until next year - a fact that has delayed our
> deployment of the v3 client to our campus, except in circumstances where
it
> is needed.
>
> We have a rather large Mac population on our campus, so the Mac client
> support is very important to us.  We wish it were better in ADSM.
>
> However, having said this, we are still using ADSM to backup many Macs
> here.  It is preferred by many over Retrospect, but it could be much
better
> if this type of little problem were solved.  Another recent problem we
> encountered was that the installer for a recent PTF level of the Mac
client
> code would not install a Preferences file on a new install (e.g., not an
> upgrade).  This was also a problem for us, as we do not have trained staff
> who go out and install ADSM everywhere.  We need a robust, easy to use
> installation package.  I'm sure you know the kind I'm talking about, Brett
> - Apple seems to implement them very well.
>
> ..Paul
> =--
> At 01:15 PM 10/19/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi Brett,
> >
> >I use ADSM in very mixed vendor environment.  Almost all my general user
> >systems are Macs, with many of my servers running AIX, Sun OS, HPUX and
> >few NT boxes.
> >
> >I don't have the best news for you.  The version three clients are much
> >more Mac like, yet they still have to be continually running to work
> >properly.  The most recent version of the Mac client initially looked
> >very promising.  It comes with a separate scheduler that claims to runs
> >completely in the background.  The problem is that scheduler continually
> >pops up every five minutes to check with the ADSM server.  It is
> >annoying to say the least.
> >
> >IBM is well aware of the problem.  We have a APAR logged with them, and
> >they claim it will be fixed Q1 2000.  They call it PTF level nine.  So
> >for now, we still back up user machines with Retrospect.  Our server
> >don't have a problem with another application continually running, so
> >all our servers (including my Mac Servers) use ADSM client version 3
> >level 6 or 7.
> >
> >We have been very happy with the restore performance.  On the occasions
> >we've had a restore, the system has really shined.  The admins used to
> >working with Retrospect are surprised how quickly we get things
> >restored.  I've restored data to one of our servers in under 60 seconds.
> > It just happened to be sitting in the initial disk storage pool.
> >
> >- Jim
> >
> >Brett Dikeman wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> We're just about fed up with Retrospect; it's too "dumbed down" for
> >> our purposes and it lacks many basic features(like backing up
> >> mulitple clients and so on.)
> >>
> >> However, we are a company which is at least 50% Macintosh, and 90% of
> >> our servers are Macintosh systems.
> >>
> >> I have no problems running backups off an NT machine, however, the
> >> quality of support for Macintosh clients is very important.
> >>
> >> When I worked for MIT, we used ADSM, but I was totally unimpressed
> >> with ADSM's interface which was completely un-mac-like.  There also
> >> seemed to be no built-in automatic scheduling unless the ADSM
> >> application was actually running, which is not acceptable for a
> >> business environment, especially in an environment with heavy focus
> >> on video.
> >>
> >> However, this was about a year and a half ago, and the version we
> >> were using was probably not the latest, so perhaps things have
> >> changed, I really don't know....
> >>
> >> Any comments from people using ADSM in a 50/50 Mac/PC environment
> >> would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Brett
> >> ----
> >> Brett Dikeman
> >> Network/System Administrator
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