Hello,
I fully agree and have the same needs as you, Andreas and Jerry!
Please give us the admin client!
Rene Lambelet
Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Buser [SMTP:andreas.buser AT BASLER DOT CH]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 9:32 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: TSM 3.7 GUI Admin - did I miss something?
>
> Hi,
>
> I would have nothing against the Webadmin, if it would be so reliable as
> the normal GUI, if it would be so fast as the normal GUI, if the overview
> and the possibilites (sorting, filtering , detail list etc) would be so
> good as the normal GUI. But as the webadmin is only a poor way of
> encapsulating the commandline interface, wich is errorpruned, slow and
> instable, so for productivity reasons I use the normal GUI.
>
> If I have time or if I am away from my PC with the normal GUI, I
> sometime
> use the webadmin, because it is "portable" (Browsers you find everywhere).
> But for day to day productive doing, I only use ADMIN GUI or native
> CMD-Line.
>
> I support your point of view : Give us back the real ADMIN-GUI!!!
>
> If I'am hearing this, I will stay as long as possible at ADSM 3.2.1.40 on
> OS/390 and wil not go to TSM 3.7 !!!
>
> There we are now, TIVOLI people are not STORAGE-people like the
> ADSM-people
> were. We ADSM Admins don't sit in front of our PCs and stare the hole day
> at long at red, green yellow, pink or whatever colored blinking icons, we
> have to do productive work in managing DATA!
>
> _________________________________________________
>
> Kind Regards
> Andreas Buser
>
> Tel: ++41 61 285 73 21 Fax: ++41 61 285 70 98
>
> Email: Andreas.Buser AT Basler DOT ch
>
> Address:
> Basler Versicherungen
> Andreas Buser
> Abt. Informatik
> Aeschengraben 21
> 4002 Basel
> Switzerland
>
>
>
> JerryLawson
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> I miss something?
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>
> Date: October 7, 1999 Time: 1:32 PM
> From: Jerry Lawson
> The Hartford Insurance Group
> (860) 547-2960 jlawson AT thehartford DOT com
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>
> Yesterday I downloaded the TSM 3.7 (Sorry - I'm just an Acronym sort of
> guy)
> client for Win32, and installed it on my machine. I was a little bit of
> surprised when I found that there was no GUI Admin client - just the GUI
> backup client, and CLIs for the Backup and admin. Well, maybe they were
> rushed, and couldn't get it rolled out in time, I thought.
>
> Then I tried my old 3.1 Admin GUI, and low and behold, it still seemed
> fine
> -
> after all, I haven't upgraded the server, so all should be well, right?
> It
> was up until I shut it down, when it took an ANS8003S catastrophic error.
> A
> peek in the error log indicated that a couple of messages were missing
> from
> the repository. OK, I thought - time to report the problem, which I did.
>
> The response, to my surprise, came back that there was no intention of
> supporting a GUI for the Admin; we would now have to use a Web Browser
> Interface.
>
> I am still trying to see the logic in this. My first inclination is that
> some planners/developers have struck upon this as a neat way to avoid a
> GUI
> application - they can now just use HTML and some Java. Probably easier
> on
> their end. The trouble is, I don't think they have taken a look at
> anyone's
> network lately. In my shop, this would mean that I need to keep a Browser
> loaded all the time (certainly not a big deal), but I must also now
> contend
> with internet and intranet traffic. Our firewall is not always the best;
> it
> has sometimes caused outages to internet/intranet traffic when regular
> TCP/IP
> traffic to my server (OS/390) has not been impacted. The bottom line is
> that
> I expect that response time will be slower, and availability will not be
> as
> good. Is this the way a major product should be going?
>
> I think I understand some of the reasons given for web enabled clients,
> but
> I
> certainly do not want to have them as my sole means of access to a native
> product. I haven't been monitoring the list actively lately - has this
> been
> a hot discussion item that people are clamoring for? What did I miss?
> What
> do others think?
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> ---
>
> Jerry
>
> Insanity is doing the same thing over and over..and expecting the results
> to
> be different - Anon.
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