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Re: HSM on NT

1999-08-05 08:41:07
Subject: Re: HSM on NT
From: "Toora, Kuli" <kulbinder.toora AT MEB.CO DOT UK>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:41:07 +0100
The text below leads me to think that RSM itself is to be used on the NT
platform to manage a HSM client/program. I don't want to be in a situation
where i have to define a new storage management system to handle HSM
functions using RSM.  Ideally i would like something to sit between my OS390
ADSM server and my NT client and handle the HSM functions. Ultimately i want
to utilise my ADSM server and mainframe tape technology to handle the HSM
functions on different platforms.
Does anybody out there use Seagate Storage Migrator?.

Thanks,

Kuli.

Kulbinder Toora
01384 296191 x3498
e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
NPEC (National Power Energy Company)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan King [SMTP:nathan.king AT USAA DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:02 PM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: HSM on NT
>
> Kuli,
>
> As was stated earlier in the list, currently the only available HSM NT
> Client is Seagate's Storage Migrator.
> There have been posts on the list in the past about this. Some people seem
> to have it working with little problems while others
> certainly don't recommend it.
>
> When Windows 2000 reaches us it will included RSM which will give vendors
> are more consistive inteface upon which to develop
> applications such as HSM.
>
> http://www.highground.com/rsm/rsmfaq.htm
> 18. How does Hierarchical Storage Management (HSM) work with RSM?
> Hierarchical Storage Management (HSM), like backup/recovery, archive,
> document imaging, etc., is a Data Mover technology that moves data from
> disk
> to removable storage (e.g. tape and optical devices) based on certain data
> characteristics and policies. RSM provides removable storage management
> services to all Data Movers. The HSM service that ships with Windows 2000
> Server, called the Remote Storage Service, uses RSM to allocate and mount
> media, label media, control robotic libraries, and manage media pools.
> Nathan
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Toora, Kuli [SMTP:kulbinder.toora AT MEB.CO DOT UK]
>         Sent:   Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:57 AM
>         To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         Subject:        Re: HSM on NT
>
>         The site below seem to talk mostly about RSM and the ability to
> manage
>         removable storage media from an NT platform(windows 2000).
>         What i was really after was any information from other ADSM sites
> that use a
>         HSM client for NT. I don't believe that there is a HSM client as
> part of the
>         NT client. I was always under the impression that such software
> would only
>         be available from a third party vendor as neither IBM or Microsft
> produced
>         such software currently.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Kuli.
>
>         Kulbinder Toora
>         01384 296191 x3498
>         e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
>         NPEC (National Power Energy Company)
>
>         > -----Original Message-----
>         > From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF.
> [SMTP:Rene.Lambelet AT NESTLE DOT COM]
>         > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:21 AM
>         > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         > Subject:      Re: HSM on NT
>         >
>         > Hello, I'm not sure if Removable Storage Managment (RSM) in
> Windows 2000
>         > will provide HSM functions! The following web site do not talk
> about it
>         > but
>         > rather about managing removable storage (DLT, DAT etc.).
>         >
>         > Should I read more carefully?
>         >
>         > Regards,
>         >
>         > Rene Lambelet
>         > Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
>         > Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
>         > E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > > -----Original Message-----
>         > > From: Nathan King [SMTP:nathan.king AT USAA DOT COM]
>         > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 5:41 PM
>         > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         > > Subject:      Re: HSM on NT
>         > >
>         > > http://www.highground.com/rsm/rsmoverview.htm
>         > >
>         > > Look at this for an overview of HSM on NT5.
>         > >
>         > >         -----Original Message-----
>         > >         From:   Remeta, Mark [SMTP:MRemeta AT SELIGMANDATA DOT 
> COM]
>         > >         Sent:   Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:23 AM
>         > >         To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         > >         Subject:        Re: HSM on NT
>         > >
>         > >         I thought that HSM, IE: Space Migration , is included
> with the
>         > NT
>         > > client???
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >         -----Original Message-----
>         > >         From: Bates, Richard
> [mailto:Richard.Bates AT VERTEX.CO DOT UK]
>         > >         Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 9:37 AM
>         > >         To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         > >         Subject: Re: HSM on NT
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >         We looked into this some months ago.  There is no IBM
> ADSM HSM
>         > > client for NT
>         > >         3.51 or NT4.  However I was told by our IBM support
> centre here
>         > in
>         > > the UK
>         > >         that an ADSM developer has been onsite at Microsoft
> and
>         > developed
>         > > a
>         > > HSM
>         > >         client for "NT5" (or whatever it is to be called).
>         > >
>         > >         In addition there is a product called "Seagate Storage
> Migrator"
>         > > which
>         > >         provides HSM capabilities, and can use ADSM as
> storage.
> However
>         > > this proved
>         > >         unnecessarily complex for us so we dropped the whole
> idea of HSM
>         > > on
>         > > NT for
>         > >         the time being.  Sorry I can't be more helpful.
>         > >
>         > >         Richard.
>         > >
>         > >         > -----Original Message-----
>         > >         > From: Rodrigo Cordovil Gazzaneo
>         > [SMTP:rgazzaneo AT INFOLINK.COM DOT BR]
>         > >         > Sent: 04 August 1999 15:24
>         > >         > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>         > >         > Subject:      Re: HSM on NT
>         > >         >
>         > >         > I thought that HSM only worked for AIX and Sun
> clients. Is it
>         > > also
>         > >         > available for NT or there is any third-part package
> for NT HSM
>         > > clients ?
>         > >         >
>         > >         > Rodrigo
>         > >         >
>         > >         >
>         > >         > >Hello,
>         > >         > >Can any body tell me where i can find information
> on
> HSM
>         > > software
>         > > for NT
>         > >         > t
>         > >         > >backup to an OS390 server?.
>         > >         > >Would any body be prepared to share their
>         > > experiences/hint/tips/pain with
>         > >         > >HSM on NT?.
>         > >         > >Thanks,
>         > >         > >Kuli.
>         > >         > >Kulbinder Toora
>         > >         > >01384 296191 x3498
>         > >         > >e-mail - Kulbinder.toora AT meb.co DOT uk
>         > >         > >NPEC (National Power Energy Company)
>         > >         >
>         > >
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