ADSM-L

Re: Archive vs. Backup

1999-01-27 11:36:14
Subject: Re: Archive vs. Backup
From: Hilton Tina <HiltonT AT TCE DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:36:14 -0500
If you pay to license 10 client nodes, it's 10 clients even if they all run
on one box.  Each registered client is one off the number of licenses you
bought.

Tina

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly J. Lipp [SMTP:lipp AT storsol DOT com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 10:49 AM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: Archive vs. Backup
>
> Does this really cost another license?  One client, one license, no matter
> how many instances of the BA client run was what I thought!
>
> Kelly J. Lipp
> Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
> www.storsol.com
> lipp AT storsol DOT com
> (719)531-5926
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Bruce Elrick
> Sent:   Wednesday, January 27, 1999 12:17 AM
> To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:        Re: Archive vs. Backup
>
> Guys,
>
> Another option, which has the cost of another ADSM client licence, is to
> register a second node name for your client and run an incremental
> backup on a monthly basis on that client using that second node name.
> Create a mgmtclass with a versions data exist of 6 or 7 and a retain
> extra versions of 185 days or so.  You get the benefits of ADSM's true
> incremental without it interfering with your daily backups.  Note, you
> may also want to set the frequency parameter on the backup copy group to
> 28 or 30 days so that if a backup is done accidentally against that
> second node name in the middle of the month, it won't back up files that
> were backed up 15 days previous.
>
> Cheers...
> Bruce
>
> "Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,FC-SIL/INF." wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > you are right, an archive is like a selective (full) backup. Therefore
> we
> > kepp our archives to a strict minimum, specifying the desired
> filesystems or
> > directories in the archive command. Remember: archive do NOT understand
> > Excludes...
> >
> > What we archive are : source programs , access MDB's, databases if no
> agent
> > is available to do online and incremental backups, Backint data (SAP)...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rene Lambelet
> > Nestec SA - 55, Av. Nestle - CH-1800 Vevey
> > Tel: ++41'21'924'35'43 / Fax: ++41'21'924'45'89
> > E-Mail: rene.lambelet AT nestle DOT com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Magura, Curtis [SMTP:curtis.magura AT LMCO DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:46 AM
> > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject:      Archive vs. Backup
> > >
> > > I've been following the comments on using Archive to meet the
> requirements
> > > of long term data storage asked by someone else on the list. I have
> the
> > > same
> > > sort of requirement and imagine most everyone does. Our requirement is
> 30
> > > copies plus 1 monthly copy kept for 6 months.
> > >
> > > If I understand Archive correctly I will be making a complete copy of
> my
> > > data and keeping it in an Archive pool. Does this mean that I am
> basically
> > > doing a complete copy of our disk farm every thirty days? With the
> ever
> > > growing size of disk farms that seems to be a problem. Based on the
> > > performance of our daily backups it would take days and days for this
> to
> > > complete for us.
> > >
> > > At this point I've set versions to 9999 and age them off at 186 days.
> > > Granted this creates way more than the number of copies than I want to
> > > keep
> > > or have a requirement to keep. We have over 1 TB of disk spinning
> ...I'm
> > > sure I'm missing something here. Everytime I read the Sys Admin Guide
> > > discussing the setup and management of storagepools I think I have it
> > > until
> > > I starting thinking about it again!
> > >
> > > For some of the larger shops out there ... Do you make Archives of
> > > everything on some interval ? If you do what kind of timeframe for
> > > completion of the Archive?
> > >
> > > Curt Magura
> > > Lockheed Martin
> > > Enterprise Information Systems
> > > Gaithersburg Md.
> > > 301-240-6305
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