ADSM-L

Re: db size

1998-01-23 15:19:45
Subject: Re: db size
From: David Hendrix <dmhendri AT FEDEX DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:19:45 -0700
Mackey,

How's Dallas?

I agree with you, however, we backup the mksysb's for AIX.  One
additional note though is, if you are trying to go to "lights out"
operation, you have no choice.  We are trying to achieve that with AIX
mksysbs, Solaris Jumpstart servers and HP-UX full backups.

On a side note, Colorado is nice, and Glenn loves Orlando.  They are
trying to build another 82-noder here to replace the old 82-sp2 (new one
uses more SMPs).  Maybe I'll see ya, eh?

David Hendrix

Mackey Morgan wrote:
>
> Ann,
> I would add that ADSM is not generally used to back up UNIX (ie. the operating
> system), which accounts for a huge chunk of those 200,000 files you mentioned.
> I support AIX installations for which I recommend using either mksysb (an AIX
> command contained in the fileset bos.sysmgt.sysbr) for operating system backup
> or else Sysback/6000, a separate program product that is moderately priced and
> has excellent features for backup/recovery of AIX Opsys and non-root Volume
> Groups. So for the "bare metal restore" portion of your overall backup 
> strategy
> (please don't forget this part!! :-o) , use one of these products and, with 
> the
> possible exception of AIX/UNIX configuration files (eg. /etc/*), there 
> wouldn't
> be any need to duplicate the backup of base UNIX over and over again (you
> select what to backup/exclude via your include/exclude file). If you are not
> using AIX, you should be looking for similar products or OS utilities that 
> work
> with your OS.
>
> Mackey Morgan,
> IBM Global Services, Product Support Services-AIX, SP, ADSM Software Services
>
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> From: INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE
> Date: 1/22/98 11:44AM
> To: Jerry Lawson at ASUPO
> *To: *ADSM-L at SNADGATE
> Subject: db size
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ann -
>
> One of the General Information manuals suggests as a rule of thumb that your
> DB should be 1 to 5% the size of the DASD you are backing up.  Therefore, at
> most liberal, 1% of 150 GB is 1.5 GB.
>
> The DB uses approximately 600-800 bytes per file, if I remember correctly.
> Thus clients that have a lot of files (and Unix machines of 200,000 files
> seem to be common, if not small) it can add up fast.  Additionally, the use
> of copy pools will add more to the DB.
>
> Jerry Lawson
> jlawson AT thehartford DOT com
>
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> Subject: DB size
> Author:  INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE
> Date:    1/22/98 11:44 AM
>
> Hi all,
>      I have recently experienced several problems with the database running
> out of space. While it true it is the first time I have backed 10 Unix
> clients succesfully, shouldn't 1-1 and half gb of database be enough for
> almost anything? Our estimate is 150 gb of raw data is being backed up .
>      Ann Courchaine
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