Dianne,
        Archive, at least in the later ADSM client code, does support the
-subdir option so this sounds like your best option.  Regarding the
updating of the last modified day, keep in mind that ADSM relies on more
updating of the last modified day, keep in mind that ADSM relies on more
than the last modified date in determining whether a file has changed
since the last backup.  In any event, it might be worth running a few
tests to see if ADSM is backing up o these Payroll files when changes
are made - you can check this by having the incremental backup running
in Verbose mode and checking the schedule log afterwards.

Tim Pittson
tpittson AT himail.hcc DOT com

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>From:  Dianne Sharp[SMTP:DSHARP AT CLEAR.CO DOT NZ]
>Sent:  Friday, November 22, 1996 7:22 AM
>To:    Multiple recipients of list ADSM-L
>Subject:       Netware backup retention
>
>HELP!!!!!
>
>I am about to go into Production with backups on our Netware 3.12 and
>4.1 file servers.  We run ADSM server on MVS.
>
>I have a problem trying to decide how to deal with a special requirement
>we have on one of the Netware 3.12 servers.
>
>We have 2 directories under the SYS2:   volume which form the Payroll
>system.  Unfortunately, due to the nature of these files, it seems that
>the modified date is not always updated and therefore, we have been
>advised that incremental backup might not actually work on these
>particular files.
>What the Payroll people have asked for is a full backup of both
>directories and subdirectories daily to be kept for 2 weeks.
>
>
>THIS IS THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT :
>
>If I exclude these directories from the incremental backup, then I
>cannot perform a selective backup on them.
>
>I thought about changing the Domain statement so that SYS2: is not
>included at all, then running a selective backup just of that volume.
>However, this means that all other files on that volume will be backed
>up whether they are changed or not and we could end up with multiple
>backup versions of the same file and may not have previous versions of
>the file itself.
>
>I cannot use the Archive function as this does not seem to support the
>-subdir option.  I don't want to have to specify all subdirectory names
>in case new ones are added and are missed from the backups.
>
>IF ANYONE CAN SEE A WAY AROUND THIS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dianne Sharp
>Operations Analyst
>ISS CUSTOMER SUPPORT
>Ext 4208
>