Thanks Jane and Hendrik
it think that was the problem. It works when I delete the interface and start a
demand poll on the node afterwards.
And yes, I did this on a lot of nodes at the same time so I think its the
problem you wrote Hendrik.
Thanks a lot
Michel
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Hendrik Zahn [mailto:hendrik.zahn AT de.ibm DOT com]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2003 12:56
An: Grossenbacher Michel
Cc: Jane Curry; NetView mailing list
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [nv-l] Interface Down Messages from Unmanaged
Interfaces
Hi Michel,
I have seen this behaviour with NV712 at several custs sites.
The problem was, that the IP Status of the interface object remained Up or
Down and wasn't
set to Unmanaged as it should. Nevertheless the ipmap showed the object in
the "unmanaged-color".
This happened mostly if a lot of interface objects were set to unmanaged at
the same time.
Sometimes a repeat of manage/unmanage for the single interface-object
helped to set also the
IP Status to Unmanaged.
Finaly the behaviour disappeared at custs site after installation of NV713
+ testfix package and IY35241.
Note: The testfix package isn't the same as the FixPack1 !)
Check this if this is valid for you (IP Status of the interface object in
object-db).
Ask your support team.
MfG./ Best regards
Hendrik Zahn (L2 EMEA Tivoli NetView Support)
"Grossenbacher Michel" <Michel.Grossenbacher AT coop DOT ch> on 06.01.2003
11:12:18
To: "Jane Curry" <jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk>, "NetView mailing list"
<nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com>
cc:
Subject: AW: AW: [nv-l] Interface Down Messages from Unmanaged
Interfaces
I only have 1 Map, the Default one I have open all the time :-/
Is it possible that it conflicts if I got at last 1 more Map open (same
Default Map but in Read only)?
Over ovobjprint -s I get the following (cut down to the Exists/Managed
Part)
ovobjprint -s node
14 OVW Maps Exists 1
15 OVW Maps Managed 1
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jane Curry [mailto:jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2003 11:07
An: Grossenbacher Michel; NetView mailing list
Betreff: Re: AW: [nv-l] Interface Down Messages from Unmanaged
Interfaces
Michel,
I still suspect you may have other MAPs (not submaps) where your
interfaces are managed. Did you try the ovobjprint -s command? From
the GUI, do a File -> Open Map and see what maps there are. I have just
done a quick test on my NV 7.1.3 to unmanage 1 interface of a router.
If you just do this on 1 map, it stays in the ping poll list.; if you
unmanage it on all maps, it disappears from the ping poll list.
Cheers,
Jane
Grossenbacher Michel wrote:
>first, thanks for the fast answer 8)
>
>I did the netmon -a 12 and got the Interfaces that should be unmanaged in
the ping list...
>I did a search on the IP Address for one Interface and in all Submaps it
found it was unmanaged. The node itself is managed cause I have to monitor
the other 2 Interfaces.
>I realy get confused now cause those Interfaces are unmanaged (I did a
Smartset for those Interfaces to set them unmanaged as soon as they apear)
but still appear in the poll list ? :-/
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Jane Curry [mailto:jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk]
>Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2003 10:03
>An: Grossenbacher Michel; NetView mailing list
>Betreff: Re: [nv-l] Interface Down Messages from Unmanaged Interfaces
>
>
>Hi Michel,
>Are you quite sure that these interfaces are unmanaged in ALL maps? If
>there is ANY map with a device still managed, then you will still get
>polls. Try ovobjprint -s <one of your nodes> - it gives you the number
>of maps an object exists in and the number of maps the object is managed
>in. Another check is to do a netmon -a 12 and a netmon -a 16 to dump
>ping and SNMP poll times - if a device is really unmanaged, it shouldn't
>appear on either list.
>Cheers,
>Jane
>
>
>Grossenbacher Michel wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hy together
>>
>>Im on AIX 4.3.3 with Maintenance Relase 9 (with Linux Tool Box)
>>NetView 7.1.2
>>
>>Since I use 7.1.2 I get Interface Down messages from Interfaces that are
unmanaged. I think this happens during the Demand Poll every 24h cause the
Interfaces are up via SNMP but not via ICMP. But still, I have set them
unmanaged and therefor I dont want to recieve messages from those
Interfaces.
>>To change this behavior I just see one solution at the moment, change the
polling from ICMP to SNMP and set those Interfaces Managed again. I dont
like this solution cause this means to activate SNMP polls for more then
1'000 Nodes (each with at least 4 Interfaces. 2 reachable via ICMP and 2
only via SNMP). Anyone got some better Ideas? I just want to reduce the
events I get.
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Michel
>>
>>Coop
>>Michel Grossenbacher
>>Systemtechnik/Telekommunikation
>>Network Management Systems Verantwortlicher
>>Telefon: +41 61 336 57 68
>>Telefax: +41 61 336 57 57
>>michel.grossenbacher AT coop DOT ch
>>Pikett Telekommunikation: +41 79 219 73 77
>>http://telekommunikation.hs.coop.ch
>>
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