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Just to expand a bit more...
My belief has been, that the delete of the object will happen SOMETIME in
the future and I was just not waiting long enough (days weeks years?) I
always figured I was in this boat because it was taking a good deal of time
to remove the objects (i.e the node goes away but the interfaces don't
immediately go away). I have also seen this problem when I have seen a node
deleted and a interface deleted trap after removing the object using Edit |
Delete | From all submaps.
Maybe this is something that needs to be traced/dumped/logged with support.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Donald [mailto:donald.davis AT firstcitizens DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:43 AM
To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
Subject: RE: [NV-L] Missing object
Brad,
I'm not sure how you got that server in the state it was in. It's very
common and (too) easy to do.
Perhaps you cut from all submaps instead of deleting.... who knows :)
In any case, the SmartSet trick will find it, if it exists in the Object
Database and allow you to delete it.
Locate will not find it if it does not exist in the Map Database.
ovtopofix -r , and as Scott mentioned, ovwdbdmap -d are UNSUPPORTED
options that could
also be used to purge the object from the topology and object databases
respectively.
I have used ovtopofix -r successfully for years. I avoid any incantation
of ovwdbdmap.
Syntax is:
ovtopofix -r [Selection Name | object# ]
ovwdbdmap -d [Selection Name | object# ]
Avoid both of these if the SmartSet trick works for you.
Don Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: BCP AT mead DOT com [mailto:BCP AT mead DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:46 AM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: RE: [NV-L] Missing object
That did the trick!
I am still somewhat confused as to why that worked. I created a smartset
for that IP address. When I clicked "OK" Netview returned that there
were no objects with that IP address would I like to create the smartset
anyway. I answered yes, went into that smartset and there was the server I
was looking for. I deleted it and Netview rediscovered it.
I guess my question is, how did the Smartset find it?
Brad
Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
Sent by: owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com
To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
cc:
Subject: RE: [NV-L] Missing object
Here's a trick that I use.
Create a SmartSet specifically for that object.
Then open the SmartSet and delete it.
I have used this at sites where stopping netmon and running ovtopofix was
not an option without a maintenance window.
Don Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: BCP AT mead DOT com [mailto:BCP AT mead DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:52 AM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: [NV-L] Missing object
Netview 7.1 for NT
I have an object that I can not find on my map and I can not force Netview
to discover it ( I put it in the seedfile ).
If I run "ovtopodump hostname" I see an entry for that object. How do I
remove this object from the
database so Netview can rediscover it or how do I force it to show up on
the map?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Brad
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Just
to expand a bit more...
My
belief has been, that the delete of the object will happen SOMETIME in the
future and I was just not waiting long enough (days weeks years?) I always
figured I was in this boat because it was taking a good deal of time to remove
the objects (i.e the node goes away but the interfaces don't immediately go
away). I have also seen this problem when I have seen a node deleted and a
interface deleted trap after removing the object using Edit | Delete | From all
submaps.
Maybe
this is something that needs to be traced/dumped/logged with
support.
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-----Original
Message----- From: Davis, Donald
[mailto:donald.davis AT firstcitizens DOT com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12,
2001 11:43 AM To: 'IBM NetView Discussion' Subject: RE:
[NV-L] Missing object
Brad,
I'm
not sure how you got that server in the state it was in. It's very common and
(too) easy to do.
Perhaps you cut from all submaps instead of deleting.... who knows
:)
In
any case, the SmartSet trick will find it, if it exists in the Object Database
and allow you to delete it.
Locate will not find it if it does not exist in the Map
Database.
ovtopofix -r , and as Scott
mentioned, ovwdbdmap -d are UNSUPPORTED options that
could
also
be used to purge the object from the topology and object databases
respectively.
I
have used ovtopofix -r successfully for years. I avoid any
incantation of ovwdbdmap.
Syntax is:
ovtopofix -r [Selection Name | object# ]
ovwdbdmap -d [Selection Name | object# ]
Avoid both of these if the SmartSet trick works for
you.
Don
Davis
That did
the trick!
I am still somewhat
confused as to why that worked. I created a smartset for that IP
address. When I clicked "OK" Netview returned that there
were no objects with that IP address
would I like to create the smartset anyway. I answered yes, went into
that smartset and there was the server I was looking for. I deleted it and Netview rediscovered it.
I guess my question is,
how did the Smartset find it?
Brad
Please respond to IBM NetView
Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
Sent by:
owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com
To:
"'IBM NetView Discussion'"
<nv-l AT tkg DOT com> cc:
Subject: RE: [NV-L] Missing object
Here's a trick that I
use. Create a SmartSet
specifically for that object. Then
open the SmartSet and delete it. I have used this
at sites where stopping netmon and running ovtopofix was not an option
without a maintenance window. Don Davis -----Original
Message----- From:
BCP AT mead DOT com [mailto:BCP AT mead DOT com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:52 AM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: [NV-L] Missing
object
Netview 7.1
for NT
I have an object that I can not find on my map
and I can not force Netview to discover it ( I put it in the seedfile
). If I run "ovtopodump hostname" I see an entry for that object.
How do I remove this object from the database so Netview can rediscover it or how do
I force it to show up on the map?
Thanks in advance for your
help! Brad
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