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I also used this method to delete certain devices from my maps, in which it
did and I also did the ovtopofix -a. However the devices are still in the
database when I do a ovtopodump. And I don't want netmon to still monitor
them. Also before and after I deleted the devices, I did a ovtopodump -S
and the number of objects stayed the same. I was expecting the number to
drop by 300, since I deleted that many from the maps. What do I need to do
to delete the devices from the database? Also I recently changed my seed
file to not include the devices that I deleted and I'm not using
auto-discovery.
Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:jshanks AT US.IBM DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:13 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: [NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor. It has both GUI and text
editor modes. You can use the GUI mode. Just click the buttons.
Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute
'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor equal to
Microsoft or the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~) 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.
(make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string here). Works ofr me.
You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make compound
conditions for your smartsets.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
bducharme AT avdl DOT com
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11/12/2001 03:19 PM
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How to define Smartsets
that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?
Benoit
"Leslie Clark" <lclark AT US.IBM DOT COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04
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This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.
First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned DHCP
address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:
!10.*.23-150.40-255
If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;
!@oid 0 # excludes non-snmp
!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.* # excludes MS
The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.
Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.
To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit
bducharme@avdl
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How can we remove and prevent Workstation from getting in the Netview map ?
Thanks
Benoit
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I also
used this method to delete certain devices from my maps, in which it did and I
also did the ovtopofix -a. However the devices are still in the
database when I do a ovtopodump. And I don't want netmon to still monitor
them. Also before and after I deleted the devices, I did a ovtopodump -S
and the number of objects stayed the same. I was expecting the number to
drop by 300, since I deleted that many from the maps. What do I need to do
to delete the devices from the database? Also I recently changed my seed
file to not include the devices that I deleted and I'm not using
auto-discovery.
Thanks,
-Jin
On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor.
It has both GUI and text editor modes. You can use the GUI mode.
Just click the buttons. Type in
"collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one
with the attribute 'isSNMPSupported' equal to false. To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with
the vendor equal to Microsoft or the attribute SNMP sysObjectId
like (~) 1.3.6.1.4.1.311. (make certain to omit the initial dot
"." in string here). Works ofr me. You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make
compound conditions for your smartsets.
James Shanks Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and
NT Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
| bducharme AT avdl DOT com
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11/12/2001 03:19 PM Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion
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cc:
Subject: Réf. : Re:
[NV-L] Remove Workstation from Map
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How to define Smartsets that include workstation
and non-snmp equipment ?
Benoit
"Leslie Clark"
<lclark AT US.IBM DOT COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04
Veuillez
répondre à IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com>
Envoyé par :
owner-nv-l AT tkg DOT com
Pour : IBM NetView
Discussion <nv-l AT tkg DOT com> cc :
Objet : Re: [NV-L]
Remove Workstation from Map
This is done with the seedfile. There
are a couple of ways.
First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you
should exclude them by address range. This is the best performer. If you
have assigned DHCP address ranges, put them in your seedfile like
this:
!10.*.23-150.40-255
If you don't have a tidy addressing
scheme, or if you also have a lot of workstations that don't abide by the
rules, you can exclude them by snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will
be either non-snmp, or Microsoft, you can exclude them like
this;
!@oid 0
# excludes
non-snmp !@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.* # excludes
MS
The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then
add in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to
allow.
Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read
it.
To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you
can either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and delete
them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets that include them. Then
you can grab them easily and delete them. If there are a lot, this can take
quite a while, but if you have done a lot of map customization it will be
worth the wait. I prefer to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of
the events for the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix
-a.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark IBM Global Services -
Systems Mgmt & Networking Detroit
bducharme@avdl
.com
To: nv-l AT tkg DOT com
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NetView
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How can we remove and prevent
Workstation from getting in the Netview map
?
Thanks
Benoit
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