If you have a current support contract with Tivoli, then 5.1.3 is free.
But a new version such as 6.0 requires a new license and you must negotiate
and pay for that.  I am sorry that you did not understand the standard
IBM/Tivoli method of pricing commercial software when you made your
original purchase decision.  But as far as I know this situation is not
unique and all the major vendors I know will charge you both for support
and for new versions.  We are not unique in this.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT



michael.hamm AT tudor DOT lu on 11/17/2000 08:34:06 AM

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it is very sad, but nobody on this world is able to
support me an update.

I just like to update from NV5.1.1 to NV5.1.3 since 8 weeks
but not Tivoli nedder IBM is able to support this to me.

I ask for an Update to NV6 an they just like to sold me
an abolutly new version for about $5,000. This is not acceptable.

It seems to me that IBM & Tivolie just want to recive my money
and now dont want to do something else than selling
other new version.

If I had the choise I never will by a product from this companys.
thats sad but true....





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Can't you just use the new snmp-based status polling on Netview V6?
In your seedfile, put an entry $xx.xx.xx.xx  for one of the addresses
on the box you have red interfaces on. On the second demandpoll,
netmon will show you the interface status resulting from snmpgets rather
than from pings. It does this automatically if the box has an unnumbered
interface on it, but you can force it to do so by making the entry in the
seedfile. This is the greatest new function in V6, if you ask me.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit


Jeff Fitzwater <jfitz AT Princeton DOT EDU>@tkg.com on 11/16/2000 10:33:50 AM

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If the 192.168.1.2 router is the only router connected to your Netview net
192.168.1.0 then I would make sure that there is a default route defined in
the netview box pointing to 192.168.1.2 so it caqn find the 212.132.50.0
net.

If on unix do the following...
netstat -rn
Look for a route 0.0.0.0 or the word "default"  it should be pointing to
the
192.168.1.2 router.
if there is a default but pointing to the wrong place and you want to leave
it in, add a route as follows... (must be root)
route add 212.132.50.0 192.168.1.2   1
This tells Netview how to reach that net which is 1 hop away.

On windows or NT I believe you can use the MSDOS window and the syntax is
simmilar.

Jeff fitzwater
CIT Systems & Networking
Princeton University


michael.hamm AT tudor DOT lu wrote:

> i am running two LANs, connected true 2 routers
> by each other. To connect the routers, I have to
> use the transfer - network 212.132.50.0 (dont ask me why)
>
> so it looks something like this:
>
> NV-BOX (Local Net 1)
>        ¦ (192.168.1.1)
>        ¦
>        ¦
>        ¦ (192.168.1.2)
> Router
>        ¦ (212.132.50.1)
>        ¦
>        ¦ (transfer - network)
>        ¦
>        ¦ (212.132.50.2)
> Router
>        ¦ (172.23.20.1)
>        ¦
>        ¦
> (Local Net 2)
>
> NetView has no chance, to reach the 2 cards 50.1 and 50.2 over IP
> and it is absolutly forbitten to me to set the route localy.
>
> So the MAP applikation of NetView give a red label to the
> interface-symbols.
>
> I enabe SNMP on the router, but the MAP - Applikation was
> not smart enought to check the SNMP-Value of the interfaces
> and indicate them green.
> They are still red, thats sad.
>
> Is there a solution???
> Michael
>
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