Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice & Help

I don't (necessarily) see a problem here. My file system is some 16TB large, it is mostly just a standard file system, but it also has an area dedicated to a MySQL database - our 8TB synthetic only backs-up part of this filesystem, ignoring the MySQL database folders and some other, non-important folders.

Depending on how your volume/s are configured, there's nothing stopping you configuring a synthetic backup that incorporates only those root level (or even deeper) folders/directories that you want to backup this way and ignoring the rest.

Of course I don't know your volume folder structure but its certainly possible (we do it), and its very efficient. And you can then have a separate backup for your Oracle db; indeed you could have a couple or more synthetics if there's a natural way to break it up.

PS If your Oracle dba/s would/can configure the database to backup to file/s then you don't have to worry about shutting down the database, and you can incorporate the files in your synthetic backup scheduling. We don't backup our MySQL database at all, but the backups to file are.

From: "Simon Weaver" <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>
To: "stefanos" <smpt1 AT peppas DOT gr>, "Mark Phillips" <Mark.Phillips AT unisa.edu DOT au>, <JCrowe AT marketforce.com DOT au>,
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Date: 12/04/2012 04:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice & Help - Linux Server 14TB
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Oracle is on here as well :-(

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I agree that synthetic backups are good, but only if you run file backups.
If the system has an oracle, the synthetic backups are useless.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice & Help - Linux Server 14TB

I agree. We use synthetic fulls quite a bit.

They work really well for large filesystems that have relatively small incremental backups.
If you’re going to tape you’ll need at least 2 free tape drives for the duration of the synthetic full backup, one for the last full backup and the other for the one you’re constructing.
Also it’s best if you’re able to send incremental backups to staging disk and they remain on the staging disk when the synthetic full is being constructed, it saves on tape loading and positioning time.
If the incremental backups are going to tape avoid multiplexing them, it’ll slow things down.
Also if you’re going to tape when doing the first conventional full backup don’t multiplex it – this will make doing the first synthetic full backup slow.

Mark

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Advice & Help - Linux Server 14TB

I would look at synthetics ... not quite as large as you, but I backup around 8TBs on one linux (RHEL 4) server over the weekend (every weekend) and it completes in well under 24 hours. (About 16-20 hours from memory)

The very first backup has to be a full, but once that is out of the way, you should be able to do a full synthetic every weekend in well under 48 hours (I'm going on what I have above so is just a guess - you may be much faster than my infrastructure as its nothing flash ... though it is completely gigabit)

I should add that I've been using synthetics on this particular server for around 4.5 years now, and they are reliable and fast - unless you have to "re-seed" the synthetic with an initial full backup; I have had a few go bad such that I have had to re-seed the backup, but that's been rare and only happened 2-3 times in all that time. HIGHLY recommended for large backups.

Cheers
Crowey

From: "Simon Weaver" <Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net>
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Date: 11/04/2012 09:16 PM
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Advice & Help - Linux Server 14TB
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All
I am hoping you can help....

Im not too familiar with Linux, but we have a RedHat Box, that is a VM Guest on an ESX Host, that has RDM's totalling 14TB

The backups are done over the LAN - Painfully slow as you can imagine.

Im wondering what options I have in terms of trying to improve performance for this client. So far its taking close to 3 days to run.
It is on a 1GB Network, as I understand. But does anyone have any suggestions?

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