Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.
2011-06-02 05:47:56
Master is supported by
Symantec for VM ... has been for a while now, I think.... will try to dig out
the old Technote on this
Off Topic - a VM Master NBU Server?
I wasn't aware that Symantec supported a VM Master server, at least in
6.5.x they don't. Perhaps that has changed in 7.x ?
-sj >>> <Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com> 6/1/2011 2:52
PM >>> I'll state first that we use a capacity
based licensing model, so I've been out of the loop for a few years on licenses
and all that (thank goodness!). The VMware
backup host can be a Client, Media Server, or even a Master. All it has to have
is access to the datastore(s) and configured in NetBackup as a VMware backup
host. For licensing, I would assume this is, at least, a normal client or
possibly an enterprise client license. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP,
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| Martin, our sales team has lead us to believe that you license per
physical machine, so in the case where you say 219x$500, you actually only need
10physical x $500 = $5000. So the vStorage backup is actually more,
because you now have to pay $2000 x 10 = $20,000, plus you need to license the
"backup host" which needs to be a windows media server (can't be an ent client
as it backs up hosts other than itself).
Scott Chapman Senior
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Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell:
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veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:57
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VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Best way to do
ESXi 4.1 backup by VeritasNetbackup.
If a standard client runs $500 and
an enterprise client runs $2000, then as long as you back up more than 4
virtual machines you are saving a heap of money. I'm not sure why you need
the SAN Media Server, I use a standard media server that is already licensed
and did not investigate using a SAN media server for this purpose. But the
per-VM cost could offset this purchase easily.
As a real world
example, I am currently upgrading a site to NBU 7.1 with 219 VMs on 10
physical hosts. That's 219 x $500 = $109,500 versus 10 x $2,000 = $20,000 in
licenses. This is all ballpark pricing, but we've completely changed all of
our licenses to this model for the savings.
Does this not work for you?
I'm certain there are scenarios where this doesn't work but I didn't think
them very common, i.e. high-powered VMs that consume 50% of the physical
hosts' resources. We tend not to virtualize in these types of
cases.
-Jonathan
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2011 11:34 AM To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re:
[Veritas-bu] Best way to do ESXi 4.1 backup
by VeritasNetbackup.
Hi I have used 7.0.1 with vSphere 4.1, using a
SAN MEdia Server, writing to disk and tape, and it seems good!
The
only problems I have is the price!!!!!! Its WAYYYYYY expensive :-((( But we
cant buy it !!! Symantec dont seem to be offering us good
pricing :-(
Simon
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veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of rhugga Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:59 PM To:
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4.1 backup by Veritas Netbackup.
Well I know with 7.x you can now use
the vstorage API. I'm just scratching the surface on this myself and plan on
moving to this method once I upgrade to 7.1. From what I have gathered so
far:
1) You deploy a "vmware backup host" which is basically just a
window machine with an enterprise client license. (I think if you have
a windows media server this can be piggy-backed onto an existing
media server) 2) From there the backup host communicates with the ESX
servers directly and integrates with the snapshot capabilities and pulls the
data directly from the ESX servers. You no longer need clients in the
VM guests. (if you were going that route before) 3) This provides granular
file restore for windows and linux clients. (linux as of 7.1) Still no
granular file restore from solaris from what I have gathered.
I've
heard mixed results from people using this but overall it seems orders of
magnitude better than the older VCB method. If your ESX datastores are on SAN
there are some even better methods of backing of your vmware environments.
Unfortunately we are on NAS at my
current shop.
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