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Re: [Veritas-bu] why oh why!!!! Did Symantec REALLY say this

2011-05-05 13:43:26
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] why oh why!!!! Did Symantec REALLY say this
From: "Valenze, Christopher" <chris AT batechp DOT com>
To: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:43:19 -0400
The "problem" with NetBackup is that it supports a greater diversity of master and media server platforms than almost any competitor.  That makes the testing matrix very unwieldy.   From my experiences when I was at Symantec/VERITAS, I doubt they will ever change this.  However, as you say, it works for filesystem backups to go up or down in rev and it probably always will.   

Chris V.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:00 PM, <Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com> wrote:
They told him that because it works. We've done this for years but only when necessary and only on file level backups. We do not support using this method to backup a database, exchange or even system state because we can't rely on a restore due to issues with possible feature enhancements in the client that aren't any where else. The file level restores have always worked fine, though you are on your own since it's not officially supported.

If Symantec is listening, I would like for them to support higher client rev's on a down rev master. It really is a pain to upgrade many sites to support a new feature. Some of their competitors support this.

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Concern I have is that can you really rely on it. There may be enhancements to the product that the Master knows little about.
If you have support with Symantec, and best practice is to follow what I have been doing 10+ years, should that be the best course of action?
 
Of course, That's not to say running 5.1 on 7.0.1 clients is supported, because its not and I appreciate that, and would not expect support.
 


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Well, it is not supported but is  working.
 
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Sure I read somewhere this was bad practice, but for life of me.... cant find it!
 



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We found this out all on our own, without Symantec's blessing.  

They came a little late with their 2008 R2 support, so they let this go on for CYA.  We were doing this before we went to 7.0.1.


When you are caught in the dilemma of getting backups or being supported, well, I choose the former.


 

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Date: 05/05/2011 10:27 AM
Subject: [Veritas-bu] why oh why!!!! Did Symantec REALLY say this
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>From my History of working with NBU, any upgrades I have done have been in this order:

Master

Media Servers

SAN Media

Clients

So ... why would Symantec be telling a colleage that "its ok to oto 6.5.6 on a client and leave Master at 6.5.4" ?
Client OS is Wink28 R2 SP1 which cant be backed up correctly 6.5.4 but runs fine and supported under 6.5.6 and 7.0.1

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