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Re: [Veritas-bu] EMC Data Domain OST Vs VTL with NetBackup

2011-04-25 17:30:10
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] EMC Data Domain OST Vs VTL with NetBackup
From: "Kendall, Scott" <scott.kendall AT twcable DOT com>
To: "Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com" <Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com>, "VERITAS-BU AT MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN DOT EDU" <VERITAS-BU AT MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN DOT EDU>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:30:01 -0400

If you have Data Domain and want to get more granular information on compression, in addition to running “ost lsu show compression “ or “filesys show compression” from the Data Domain itself, you can also run “filesys show compression” with additional arguments “[filename] [last n {hours | days}]”, where a wildcard such as * can be used within the filename.

 

“filesys show compression /backup/ost/<LSU_NAME>/*” produces a report that contains a line for every image fragment that looks like the following, where “bytes” is actual size of backup, “g_comp” is size on Data Domain after global compression (dedupe), “l_comp” is size on Data Domain after local compression (i.e. LZ compression after dedupe) and “bytes/storage_used” is the compression ratio, followed by a summary with totals.

 

/backup/ost/<LSU_NAME>/<BACKUP_IMAGE>_<COPY>_<FRAGMENT>:1300250930:<POLICY>:4:1::: mtime: 1300264487182774391, bytes: 4,577,820,672, g_comp: 380,239,733, l_comp: 109,514,404, meta-data: 1,164,084, bytes/storage_used: 41.4

 

 

Update the SSH Authorized Keys file on the Data Domain (using “adminaccess add ssh-keys” per Data Domain command reference guide) so you aren’t constantly prompted for a password, and a script like the following ran from a Media Server would produce a space delimited file with client, compression and size on Data Domain (after dedupe and compression) that can be easily opened and manipulated in Excel.

 

for client in `ssh sysadmin@<DATADOMAIN> "filesys show compression /backup/ost/<LSU_NAME>/*"|awk -F\/ '{print $5}'|awk -F_ '{print $1}'|sort -u`; do ssh sysadmin@<DATADOMAIN> "filesys show compression /backup/ost/<LSU_NAME>/$client*"|awk '{if ($1 == "Total") printf client" "$5; else if ($1 == "Locally") print " "$4}' client=$client >>/var/tmp/<DATADOMAIN>.`date +%m%d%y`.log; done

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] EMC Data Domain OST Vs VTL with NetBackup

 

You will get little to no dedupe if your DBA or DB agent performs any compression or encryption on the db backup before it gets onto the DD. Always note, what you will get and what someone else will get will always differ somehow, so take the below with a grain of salt.

I have been seeing between 18 and 20 times compression for an environment that is made up of about 50 VMs and has several DB servers. I can't give you numbers more granular than that because we are using only one LSU.

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Thanks rhugga

I also have a quick question to all experts on dedup ratio that you see on database backup, for e.g. SQL, DB2 & Oracle.

What is the usual ratio you see with database backups using native application backup utilites or using NetBackup Agents? Does it make any difference do it?

Suppose if DBA's generates 1TB of SQL native database backup flat files for a given server and if I back up flat files using NetBakcup n keep it for 5 weeks essentially backing up 30TB of data then how much compression one would see and what factors does it depend on.?

Thanks.

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