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Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

2009-06-30 14:44:25
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue
From: "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>
To: <dave.markham AT fjserv DOT net>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:40:38 -0400
Do you have the Veritas open file agent installed and have you rebooted?
Are you running the latest service pack for whatever version client?

I backup far more than 1.4 million files here on single Windows 2000
systems with and without Flashbackup without issue.

-Jonathan 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Dave
Markham
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Million file backup issue

Thanks for the info Bryan.

I have just changed the file path to \\.\F: and ran a test and i'm still
getting 'WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: 
Access is denied. )

I take it there's not other flash ways without advanced client license.

Cheers

Bryan Bahnmiller wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
>   The Flash backup documentation is wrong, at least for 6.5. Instead 
> of using /\\.\F: I had to use \\.\F:
> It will backup the entire volume. And since your "empty" space 
> probably hasn't been overwritten with zeros, it will take time to back

> it up. It should still compress like the rest of the volume. If you 
> had a VTL or are using de-dupe of some sort, even that "empty" space 
> would probably de-dupe quite well.
>
>   I just ran some tests. I had a 50 GB volume. I created about 9 GB of

> small files, about a million or so. The backup speed would start at 
> about 10 MB/s and then when it hit the millions of tiny files, the 
> speed drastically dropped resulting in a final average of 1.7 MB/s.
> However, the speed of the flashbackup of the raw volume ran 
> consistently at 11 MB/s, start to finish. So even though there was 
> only 10 GB to backup on a 50 GB volume, the 10 GB backup of files took

> 1hr 44m, and the flashbackup of 50GB took 1hr 30m.
>
>   Ideally you would want to split off the "bad" files in their own 
> volume, so you aren't backing up that much white space. Is it possible

> to shrink it in your environment? (With W2K it may not be possible.) 
> I'm not sure you can do a "mountpoint" inside of a filesystem on W2K.
> I know it is possible in W2003 and above.
>
>       Bryan
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> To add.... The F:\  volume is 521gb with 134gb used. Does this mean 
> the raw backup is 134gb or 521 as i dont want it filling tape
unnecessarily.
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> Ideally i'd like to do the mount point option and have a policy 
> backing up the mount point of the problem dirs e.g F:\nic\lsnode but i

> dont know how to make a mount point from a current directory in
windows.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Markham wrote:
> > Running Netbackup 5.0Mp7 on Solaris 9 Master server.
> >
> > 10 odd network based clients some windows2000, 2003 and Solaris 8,9
> >
> > We are having trouble with one Windows 2000 server running Envision 
> > IDS software which creates millions of files under a directory.
> > f:\nic\lsnode has 87gb data with 1.4million files. Luckily the
> directory
> > is on a separate drive than the OS so there are options (hopefully).
> >
> > We currently can't get a backup as it fails with Status 14 or other
> issues.
> >
> > I'm asking for advise from windows side as i'm a Unix/Solaris
engineer.
> >
> > I'm guessing i need to do some image type backup with flash or snap 
> > but i dont have the advanced client license and as i'm on v5 i dont 
> > see how i can get one.
> >
> > I've currently tried following this :- 
> > http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/275912.htm
> > and putting /\\.\F: in the file list for a new policy with the 
> > problem client to do raw backup.
> >
> > However i get a Status1 and get the following error :-
> >
> > WRN - can't lock raw device for read: \\.\F: (F:) (Win32 5: Access 
> > is denied. )
> >
> > I'm not sure why that is.
> >
> > Also i have not got any settings on the Client properties under VSP.

> > I dont have a cache file volume list or Cache File Size parameters 
> > other than default. Should i be changing anything here?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
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