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Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 Performance With Exchange 2003 IS Poor

2009-04-08 02:21:17
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 Performance With Exchange 2003 IS Poor
From: "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>
To: "Josef Weingand" <WEINGAND AT de.ibm DOT com>, <Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:17:01 +0100

Josef
At the moment, I have not made any buffer changes to the system, because I wanted to get an idea of any other peoples experiences within this environment. :-)


From: Josef Weingand [mailto:WEINGAND AT de.ibm DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 Performance With Exchange 2003 IS Poor


Hello,
I just want to mention that IBM LTO tape drives spin down the speed. IBM LTO3 and IBM LTO4 has the same lowest speed of 30 MB/sec. And in addition IBM LTO4 has an internal buffer of 512 MB. The mention shoe shine or start/stop effect will (normally) not influence your backup / restore speed.

Have you the same tuning parameters for LTO3 and LTO4, like buffer size and numbers of buffers?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

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From: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com
To: Ed Wilts <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>
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Date: 07.04.2009 22:10
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 Performance With Exchange 2003 IS Poor






Very nice break down, Ed. This type of situation is where the need for disk storage units becomes more and more apparent. It's getting harder and harder to stream at the speeds faster tape drives need to stay running at an acceptable level.


Just because the drive CAN go faster doesn't mean it WILL, all other things remaining the same.


Not a knock on you, Simon.


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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:12 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external) <
simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:
Environment:

NBU 5.1 MP5 Master Plus many SAN SSO Media Servers Win2k3 SP2

Problem: Mail Backups of Information Store using LTO4 SL500 are taking 4 1/2 hours extra to backup compared to LTO3.

If the tape drives were not your bottleneck before - i.e. you were continually driving them at least 80MB/sec,  then upgrading to LTO-4 will likely slow your backups down.  By my calculations, you weren't bottlenecked at the tape drives. You were taking 4 hours for 1TB of data.  That's a total of 69MB/sec.  If you were doing that to 3 drives, you were only averaging 23MB/sec per drive.

LTO drives must stream.  If you can't feed them data fast enough, you'll shoe-shine the drives with continuous start/stop fashion and performance will suck.

Same configuration is in place (ie: 3 streams to 3 different drives) and all part of the same fabric, apart from being in a different building.


An IBM LTO4 drive requires a MINIMUM of 30MB/sec.  An HP LTO4 requires a MINIMUM of 40MB/sec.  That's assuming no compression.  If you're compressing with a 2:1 ratio, you'll need double that.  They top out at 120MB/sec native and 240MB/sec with (2:1) compressed data.

So let's assume 2:1 compression on 3 streams going to an HP drive.  You'll need to deliver 2*3*40MB/sec, or 240MB/sec at an absolute minimum.  You can deliver up to 2*3*120 or 720MB/sec.

Since you were only averaging 23MB/sec per drive before, you've got a LONG way to go.

   .../Ed

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