Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. NetBackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5
2008-04-10 06:16:42
I have a book about the growth of M$ and I can state
that alot of their success was "right place, right
time".
Especially the early days of the venture with IBM,
IBM-DOS, PC-DOS and then MS-DOS/Windows 1
Nah,
I
do not like Bill too much, BUT he was there at the right time and he will still
be included with those great and wonderful men. Denis is one of the most humble
men I have ever had the privilege of meeting!
Kind
Regards,
Clem
Kruger
P
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From: Jeff
Lightner [mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com] Sent: 09 April 2008 15:14
PM To: Clem Kruger; Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts Cc:
Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs.
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from
6.5
Lumping
in a marketer like Bill Gates with TECHNICAL experts like Dennis Ritchie is
plain silly. Bill didn’t “create” anything – he saw an opportunity when
IBM came knocking and bought QDOS to resell to IBM. (We won’t talk
about the fact that QDOS was pretty much believed to be a knock off of
CP/M). After DOS became the main OS for IBM PC compatible systems he
was able to force much of the rest of the world into dependence on his other
products not by their technical superiority but by practices that got the DOJ in
the U.S. to start an anti-trust action against him and the E.U. which has now
judged it as monopolistic twice.
By the
way – I’m pretty sure it was us old farts that were joking about old
farts.
From: Clem
Kruger [mailto:Clem AT re-thinking-it DOT com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09,
2008 1:58 AM To: Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner Cc:
Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs.
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5
Can someone please
explain what am "old fart" is?
There are only 3
certainties in life, death, taxes and change. The last two we can control but
death started the day we were born.
Those of you who used
the term "Old Fart", just remember one day you will wake up and find yourself
much older and then you too will be offended by being called an old
fart!
The changes we have
seen through the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and now the 21st century has
made us better people and most of all we (old farts) are disciplined. You
needed to drop a try of cards once to understand discipline.
Will you be
remembered when you are gone? The old farts Bill Gates, Dennis Ritchie, Ken
Thompson and many others will be. Do you know why? Because they were the
pioneers, because all we had was a pair of pliers and some wire.
We never had memory
leaks because could not waste memory. Go and learn assembler and find out what a
thrill it is to do so much with very little.
I just hope that you
are fit in mind and body when it is your turn to be called an “old fart” so that
you can ask yourself “did I leave any foot prints others can
follow”?
I took offence, but
now enjoy remembering the program sheets, the cards and ticker tape. The
something we made from nothing. It is great to say we were part of the pioneers
and just hope the pioneering spirit will continue.
Enjoy your life and
have some compassion.
Regards,
Clem.
From:
veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of Haskins,
Steve Sent: Wed 2008/04/09 05:19 AM To: Ed Wilts; Jeff
Lightner Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs.
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5
And
programming on punch cards…Oh, what FUN!
From:
veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed
Wilts Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:50 PM To: Jeff
Lightner Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek;
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs
Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jeff
Lightner <jlightner AT water DOT com>
wrote:
We now
prefer to be called Chronologically Mature Methane Producers or ChMMPs (NOT to
be pronounced as Chimps so as not offend the Evolutinarilly
Challenged…)
An old fart like me can't remember a name
*that* long. I can remember paper tape
though...
.../Ed (hiding out at SNW in
the state that defines old)
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