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Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. NetBackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5

2008-04-10 06:16:42
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. NetBackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5
From: "WEAVER, Simon \(external\)" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>
To: "Clem Kruger" <Clem AT re-thinking-it DOT com>, "Jeff Lightner" <jlightner AT water DOT com>, "Haskins, Steve" <Steve.Haskins AT bannerhealth DOT com>, "Ed Wilts" <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:58:03 +0100
I have a book about the growth of M$ and I can state that alot of their success was "right place, right time".
 
Especially the early days of the venture with IBM, IBM-DOS, PC-DOS and then MS-DOS/Windows 1


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Clem Kruger
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:02 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. NetBackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgpisgone from 6.5

Nah,

 

I do not like Bill too much, BUT he was there at the right time and he will still be included with those great and wonderful men. Denis is one of the most humble men I have ever had the privilege of meeting!

 

 

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

Clem Kruger

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From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com]
Sent: 09 April 2008 15:14 PM
To: Clem Kruger; Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5

 

Lumping in a marketer like Bill Gates with TECHNICAL experts like Dennis Ritchie is plain silly.  Bill didn’t “create” anything – he saw an opportunity when IBM came knocking and bought QDOS to resell to IBM.   (We won’t talk about the fact that QDOS was pretty much believed to be a knock off of CP/M).   After DOS became the main OS for IBM PC compatible systems he was able to force much of the rest of the world into dependence on his other products not by their technical superiority but by practices that got the DOJ in the U.S. to start an anti-trust action against him and the E.U. which has now judged it as monopolistic twice.  

 

By the way – I’m pretty sure it was us old farts that were joking about old farts.

 


From: Clem Kruger [mailto:Clem AT re-thinking-it DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:58 AM
To: Haskins, Steve; Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner
Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5

 

Good day all y'all,

 

Can someone please explain what am "old fart" is?

 

There are only 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and change. The last two we can control but death started the day we were born.

Those of you who used the term "Old Fart", just remember one day you will wake up and find yourself much older and then you too will be offended by being called an old fart!

The changes we have seen through the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and now the 21st century has made us better people and most of all we (old farts) are disciplined. You needed to drop a try of cards once to understand discipline.

Will you be remembered when you are gone? The old farts Bill Gates, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson and many others will be. Do you know why? Because they were the pioneers, because all we had was a pair of pliers and some wire.

We never had memory leaks because could not waste memory. Go and learn assembler and find out what a thrill it is to do so much with very little.

I just hope that you are fit in mind and body when it is your turn to be called an “old fart” so that you can ask yourself “did I leave any foot prints others can follow”?

I took offence, but now enjoy remembering the program sheets, the cards and ticker tape. The something we made from nothing. It is great to say we were part of the pioneers and just hope the pioneering spirit will continue.

Enjoy your life and have some compassion.

 

Regards,

 

Clem.

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of Haskins, Steve
Sent: Wed 2008/04/09 05:19 AM
To: Ed Wilts; Jeff Lightner
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs. Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp isgone from 6.5

And programming on punch cards…Oh, what FUN!

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:50 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com; Jim Horalek; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Auburn vs Netbackup forums- Was: sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner AT water DOT com> wrote:

We now prefer to be called Chronologically Mature Methane Producers or ChMMPs (NOT to be pronounced as Chimps so as not offend the Evolutinarilly Challenged…)

An old fart like me can't remember a name *that* long.  I can remember paper tape though...

 

   .../Ed (hiding out at SNW in the state that defines old)


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Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
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