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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP, catalog backups stealing tape from scratch pool

2008-01-25 15:59:10
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP, catalog backups stealing tape from scratch pool
From: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com
To: Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:35:56 -0600
Tim, yes, once they are expired they go back to scratch and can be re-used just like any tape. No more catalog tape header issues.


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Tim
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:55 PM
To: Rusty R Major
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP, catalog backups stealing tape from scratch pool

Thanks for the responses.
 
The thing is, it's not expected as far as I'm concerned. It would be if there were no tapes available for catalog backups but there are, as I mentioned. We only have 1 week retention on the catalog backups and there are 2 LTO3 tapes available so it's very unlikely they would both be full. Therefore, this is the 'rogue behaviour' I was referring to - because of this, I want to claim my normal backup tapes back rather than letting them stay in the catalog pool and was wondering how to do it. Reading between the lines of you answers I'm guessing that all I need to do is expire the tapes and they will return to the scratch pool.
What I was concerned about was whether once a tape has been assigned as a catalog tape it could be used for normal backups without an erase or something like that.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim


From: Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com [mailto:Rusty.Major AT sungard DOT com]
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2008 8:46 AM
To: Wilkinson, Tim
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP4, catalog backups stealing tape from scratch pool

As Ed said, the hot catalog backups are now treated like any other policy would be treated - ie taking tapes from scratch, retention, appending to existing tapes in the pool, etc.
 
If you are using tapes from scratch more than you think, take a look at what your retentions are set to. Do you really need to keep the catalog backups for 1 month? Maybe you are backing it up too often (or not enough!). Keep in mind if you change retentions, it's probably going to use a couple more tapes if you don't have like retentions in the catalog pool.
 
In short, this is expected behavior and as Ed said, leave it alone! =)
 
-Rusty


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:01 AM
To: Wilkinson, Tim
Cc: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6 MP4, catalog backups stealing tape from scratch pool

With NBU 6.0, you don't need to do anything special.  Catalog tapes will be taken from the Scratch pool if necessary and will be put back when they expire.  Your hot catalog backups have a frequency and retention just like any other backup.  As the images expire, the tapes go back to the pool automatically - they're not "rogue" at all.  You don't need to move them around yourself - just let NetBackup do its thing.

   .../Ed

On Jan 23, 2008 10:42 PM, Wilkinson, Tim <Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au> wrote:
Hi,
 
I've noticed that on occasion, the NBU hot catalog ('NBU-catalog' type policy) backups seem to not use the tapes in the CatalogBackup volume pool and grabs a tape from the scratch pool. There are 2 LTO3 tapes in that pool (CatalogBackup) specifically for catalog backups and I don't think they are full so I'm unsure why it does this at all, albeit rarely.
Now, the question is, how can I return these rogue tapes to the scratch pool? If I just move it back to scratch pool will it be used for normal backups, or do I need to erase the tape?
 
Cheers,

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