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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:57:48 -0800
From: Chris_Millet <netbackup-forum AT backupcentral DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] "piece handles" in Oracle RMAN backups..what are
they?
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While doing some full hotbackups via the Oracle db agent, we've noticed that
the total size of the jobs ran through Netbackup vs the database size can be
50-70% more. Of those jobs, we see the actual data files as one part of the
backup and something called "piece handles" (from the RMAN) log also being sent
to Netbackup that amount for the size discrepency.
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:58:03 -0600
From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows "space"
To: "Stump, Bob A" <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com>
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On Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM, Stump, Bob A <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com> wrote:
> How do I get past the "space" in a windows folder name when running
> bplist from a UNIX master?
>
Like all other Unix shell commands that have spaces in them - escape it.
Ditto if you have wildcards in your bplist.
> For instance
>
>
> # bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
> 01/22/2008 /C/Program Files/VERITAS/NetBackup
>
# bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e 01/22/2008
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:07:24 -0600
From: "Stump, Bob A" <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows "space"
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Thanks to all
The backslash, single quote, double quotes all worked.
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From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Stump, Bob A
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows "space"
On Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM, Stump, Bob A <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com> wrote:
How do I get past the "space" in a windows folder name when running
bplist from a UNIX master?
Like all other Unix shell commands that have spaces in them - escape it.
Ditto if you have wildcards in your bplist.
For instance
# bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
01/22/2008 /C/Program Files/VERITAS/NetBackup
# bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e
01/22/2008 /C/Program\ Files/VERITAS/NetBackup
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From: "Stump, Bob A" <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
558 days to it?
For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:27:50 -0500
From: "Jeff Lightner" <jlightner AT water DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
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Excel does date math - just format as date. Input 07/07/08 in one cell
(say B5) then in B6 put formula "=B5+588" So long as B6 is formatted
as a date field it should show you the resulting date.
Answer is February 15, 2010 by the way.
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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:38:08 -0500
From: "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
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Did you want something online / one time thing?
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html
Or were you looking for something scriptable?
-Jonathan
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Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:48:18 -0600
From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
To: "Stump, Bob A" <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com>
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On Jan 22, 2008 3:16 PM, Stump, Bob A <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com> wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I
> added
> 558 days to it?
>
> For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?
>
In a Linux bash shell:
[ewilts@corpftp ewilts]$ date -d "7/7/2008 +558 days"
Sat Jan 16 00:00:00 CST 2010
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:48:47 -0600
From: "Randy Samora" <Randy.Samora AT stewart DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
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>>From date: Monday, July 7, 2008
Added 558 days
Resulting date: Saturday, January 16, 2010
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html
Thanks,
Randy
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:49:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
To: "Curtis Preston" <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>, "Kevin Whittaker"
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Nbgp.exe is not in windows 6.51 bpdir.exe still exists in windows 6.51
Doug Preston
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What about the new nbgp:
# ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/*gp
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/nbgp
The old syntax apparently doesn't work. What DOES work? (Let's not try this
on a production system, shall we?)
Also, is the new nbgp on Windows?
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VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
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nope... that is gone.
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Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5
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I'm looking into whether or not this is true. If it is, it's time for an email
campaign.
Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous. Anybody who is
root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any client any
time they want via a backup/restore command. Removing bpgp only makes it take
a few minutes instead of a few seconds.
Other complaints about it over the years have been that it doesn't check for
like/like. You can overwrite a directory with a file if you tell it to. For
example, the following command would be VERY BAD!
WRONGWAY# bpgp to client /etc/hosts /etc #DON'T DO THIS
While this would be perfectly valid syntax with copy, cp, rcp, mv, etc, it is
NOT proper syntax with bpgp. The command above would overwrite the /etc
DIRECTORY with /etc/hosts, which, of course, would not be good for your client.
(Some have even overwritten their root mount point.) Perhaps they got too many
calls from people that did just that.
Of course, about five lines of code could have fixed that problem. It doesn't
allow you to copy a directory, but it doesn't check if what you're copying to
is a directory. A simple check that the target file is or is not a directory
would have sufficed. If it was a directory, it could just exit with error.
But they chose instead to just pretend the command didn't exist. It's not
documented; there's not even a Usage statement in the command itself, even if
you do strings. If you call support and complain they tell you it's not
supported.
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:05:31 -0500
From: "Preston, Douglas L" <dpreston AT LANDAM DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
To: "Preston, Douglas L" <dpreston AT LANDAM DOT com>, "Curtis Preston"
<cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>, "Kevin Whittaker"
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My bad, that is left over from a previous version.
Doug Preston
Systems Engineer
Land America Tax and Flood Services
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Email dlpreston AT landam DOT com
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
Nbgp.exe is not in windows 6.51 bpdir.exe still exists in windows 6.51
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
What about the new nbgp:
# ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/*gp
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/nbgp
The old syntax apparently doesn't work. What DOES work? (Let's not try this
on a production system, shall we?)
Also, is the new nbgp on Windows?
---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
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nope... that is gone.
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5
Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5
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I'm looking into whether or not this is true. If it is, it's time for an email
campaign.
Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous. Anybody who is
root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any client any
time they want via a backup/restore command. Removing bpgp only makes it take
a few minutes instead of a few seconds.
Other complaints about it over the years have been that it doesn't check for
like/like. You can overwrite a directory with a file if you tell it to. For
example, the following command would be VERY BAD!
WRONGWAY# bpgp to client /etc/hosts /etc #DON'T DO THIS
While this would be perfectly valid syntax with copy, cp, rcp, mv, etc, it is
NOT proper syntax with bpgp. The command above would overwrite the /etc
DIRECTORY with /etc/hosts, which, of course, would not be good for your client.
(Some have even overwritten their root mount point.) Perhaps they got too many
calls from people that did just that.
Of course, about five lines of code could have fixed that problem. It doesn't
allow you to copy a directory, but it doesn't check if what you're copying to
is a directory. A simple check that the target file is or is not a directory
would have sufficed. If it was a directory, it could just exit with error.
But they chose instead to just pretend the command didn't exist. It's not
documented; there's not even a Usage statement in the command itself, even if
you do strings. If you call support and complain they tell you it's not
supported.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:08:13 -0500
From: "Jeff Lightner" <jlightner AT water DOT com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
To: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org>, "Stump, Bob A"
<Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com>
Cc: veritas-bu <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
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Whoops - my apologies on earlier answer. It is Jan 16 2010 as Ed has it
- I accidentally added "588" rather than "558" in my answer.
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Stump, Bob A
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator
On Jan 22, 2008 3:16 PM, Stump, Bob A <Bob.A.Stump AT fnis DOT com> wrote:
Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added
558 days to it?
For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008?
In a Linux bash shell:
[ewilts@corpftp ewilts]$ date -d "7/7/2008 +558 days"
Sat Jan 16 00:00:00 CST 2010
.../Ed
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