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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?

2008-01-22 14:38:42
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?
From: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
To: "Curtis Preston" <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:16:55 -0500

Is that script something that you could share?


Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell)



"Curtis Preston" <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>
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01/22/2008 01:40 PM

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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?





I completely agree, Bob.  It was the only way to check and maintain
exclude lists on non-Windows clients. (Windows clients have
bpgetconfig/bpsetconfig.)  I have a great script for using bpgp to
maintain just that, actually.

(You can, of course, script the backup/restore method I mentioned
previously.)

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W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Stump,
Bob A
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?

How are we supposed to check for exclude lists?
How are we going to maintain exclude lists?
They've taken away our tools.
We either need to have them back or be given an alternate solution.


Bob Stump
Fidelity Information Services
ENT STORAGE MANAGEMENT - TAPE
Mobile (269)832-0293


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:Kevin.Whittaker AT syniverse DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:17 PM
To: Stump, Bob A; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

nope... that is gone.

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Bob A
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5


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Subject: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5


I'm looking into whether or not this is true.  If it is, it's time for
an email campaign.

Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous.  Anybody
who is root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any
client any time they want via a backup/restore command.  Removing bpgp
only makes it take a few minutes instead of a few seconds.

Other complaints about it over the years have been that it doesn't check
for like/like. You can overwrite a directory with a file if you tell it
to.  For example, the following command would be VERY BAD!

WRONGWAY# bpgp to client /etc/hosts /etc #DON'T DO THIS

While this would be perfectly valid syntax with copy, cp, rcp, mv, etc,
it is NOT proper syntax with bpgp.  The command above would overwrite
the /etc DIRECTORY with /etc/hosts, which, of course, would not be good
for your client.  (Some have even overwritten their root mount point.)
Perhaps they got too many calls from people that did just that.

Of course, about five lines of code could have fixed that problem.  It
doesn't allow you to copy a directory, but it doesn't check if what
you're copying to is a directory. A simple check that the target file is
or is not a directory would have sufficed.  If it was a directory, it
could just exit with error.  But they chose instead to just pretend the
command didn't exist.  It's not documented; there's not even a Usage
statement in the command itself, even if you do strings.  If you call
support and complain they tell you it's not supported.

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