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Re: [Veritas-bu] LotusNotes backup strategy

2007-10-07 23:14:30
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LotusNotes backup strategy
From: "Boris Kraizman" <sysadminzone AT gmail DOT com>
To: "Jon Bousselot" <jon_bousselot AT sd.vrtx DOT com>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 05:03:05 +0200
Hi Jon,

Yes, it seems I am fine with using regular client agent. On windows it is consistent as it is using VSP or VSS for open files. It worked before as well even on Linux. And no problem with restores, just restore the entire nsf files and then either give the access to users thru the Domino links, or merge with the existing mail bags. Notes Admins know how to do it. But just, we have a problem to turn the transaction logs, as we have mail bags with sizes from 1g to 5gig. Then Domino server cannot handle this properly, it looks like our messaging team is going to drop this idea, and we will see how we can implement retention policies using an archiving solution for mail. I also agree that database level client (add-on advanced client for Notes) will slow your backup as it will go thru Domino API, and on IBM site, I found a lot of hot fixes just for Symantec/Veritas NetBackup, then again even more considerations. But, it looks like to convert LAN agents to SAN media servers will improve our situation.

Thank you,
Boris

On 10/5/07, Jon Bousselot <jon_bousselot AT sd.vrtx DOT com> wrote:
We use the notes agent, and write about 380GB of data to tape, coming
from two servers.  The mailboxes are split by alphabet.  Average
throughput to tape is about 8 to 10 MB/sec from each client, and we do a
full backup every night.  We keep the weekend fulls at a different
retention than the weekdays, and backing up this much data makes a
recovery very simple.  I have reviewed the incremental notes backup, and
it appears to only get the transaction logs. We have not tested a
restore from this type of backup, so I don't know how well it works.  I
think we might just be lucky so far that we've never needed to roll a
data file forward from logs.  Usually we're restoring the entire .nsf
file and letting users attach to the current and previous one to manage
the differences.

Along with the full .nsf backups for mail, we also get the transaction
logs.  I don't think I've ever needed to use them.

-Jon



> Hi Boris,
>
> We did transaction log bkups until recently, as we were never able to get
> our "point in time" recoveries to work. I suspect that it's because of the
> length of time it takes to do the database backup (couple of days for just
> over 1TB over the LAN). We also multi-streamed the transaction and
> database backups to ensure that the transaction log file(s) would be
> reinitialized.
>
> I'm still VERY interested in seeing how other sites are doing their Notes
> backups/restores.
>
> /Steve
> ---
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Boris Kraizman wrote:
>
>
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > I have to get back to this topic. Do you do transaction log backups using
>> > NBU add-on database agent for Lotus Notes? How it works for you? We are
>> > still doing file level backups with regular NBU client for Windows. I was
>> > asked to evaluate transactional log backups as well, we have a few mail
>> > servers with 0.5TB data on each. We backup them over LAN, I am thinking to
>> > convert them into SAN media backup servers. Any useful information on how
>> > you do the backup for Domino environment would be really helpful.
>> >
>> > I saw Jerry also responded on this topic. Jerry, could you please be more
>> > detail how you do VSS or I can see you do the array based solution with
>> > local copy cloning, correct?
>> >
>> > Does anybody do transactional log backups for Domino Notes? Any pros and
>> > cons?
>> >
>> > Curtis? maybe you can get back on this one.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Boris
>> >
>> > On 5/15/07, Steve Quan <sq01 AT yorku DOT ca> wrote:
>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> We've been "wrestling" with this for quite some time, and very curious to
>>> >> see how other sites are managing their Lotus Notes backups. We're running
>>> >> NBU6.0 MP4 (servers and clients). The database is just over 1TB and we do
>>> >> transaction log backups.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> /Steve
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