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Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

2007-08-16 14:17:00
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question
From: "Kevin Whittaker" <Kevin.Whittaker AT syniverse DOT com>
To: "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:50:38 -0400
Yes... it looks like it was the DNS setup was wrong on the server?!?!
 
I am not a Windows guy, so I did not see that issue.  The Windows guys fixed it and the backup is running right now.  whew!  I let the VMWARE thing throw me, should have went with my gut about it.
 
Now I have to deal with the other Windows server that has 2 network cards!
 
Need to figure out how to build a static route on Windows!


From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:42 PM
To: Kevin Whittaker
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

Whoa - TIME OUT - This is being blown WAY outta scope.
 
The original email said this was VMWARE WORKSTATION... its is available for Windows and Linux but he said he was running WINDOWS 2003!  There is most definitely an agent for Windows 2003.  VMWare Workstation is a standard application running on windows that emulates hardware.  Nothing special about it.  ESX servers are entirely different animals that run on "custom" Linux provided by VMWare.
 
This is a standard Windows 2003 backup.  Nothing special about it. 
 
Kevin,
 
Forget about VMWARE.  You need to have the Windows Netbackup client installed on Rumba.  Then you need to verify on Rumba and the Master that DNS is working (bpclntcmd.)  When you create the backup policy specify client --> Rumba and you are good.  VMWare really has nothing to do with any of this.
 
-Jonathan


From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:Kevin.Whittaker AT syniverse DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:30 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; Steven L. Sesar
Cc: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

Yep...  Even talked with the VMWARE guy and says there is no linux on that server.  It is a workstation version of VMWARE which is not the ESX server style.
 
:-(  Why do things have to get so complicated?


From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner AT water DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:20 PM
To: Kevin Whittaker; Steven L. Sesar
Cc: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

Well I’m not a vmware expert (or even user) but my understanding was vmware itself was a base Linux OS.   The only one we have here is vmware esx and it is certainly a base Linux OS.

 

When you remote into “rumba” are you seeing standard Windows Start etc…?

 


From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:Kevin.Whittaker AT syniverse DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:16 PM
To: Steven L. Sesar; Jeff Lightner
Cc: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

 

This is not a ESX Server, I am being told it is only VMWARE Workstation.

 


From: Steven L. Sesar [mailto:ssesar AT mitre DOT org]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:15 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Martin, Jonathan; Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

There's no ESX server client - that said, I don't know about 6.5 or what Symantec's road map might include in the VMWare space. VI3 does come with a solution, VCB (VMWare Consolidated Backup). That's probably what he should be using to protect his ESX boxes. In a DR scenario, an ESX server hosting, say, 15 guest machines, the only way to get them back is to restore one host at a time.


Jeff Lightner wrote:

No – I think he is saying he has no issues backing up the virtual machines on top of vmware.   What he wants to do is backup the underlying “real” machine so he can restore vmware itself. (i.e. Backup what would be there if there were no virtual machines setup yet.)

 

In that case there is no “C” drive because vmware is Linux rather than Windows.   You’d have to have a client installed there.   NetBackup comes with RedHat Linux clients but I don’t know if there is a vmware client.

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

 

Ok... so

 

Host_1 --> Virtual Machine 1

Host_1 --> Virtual Machine 2

Host_1 --> Virtual Machine 3

 

Verify that Host_1 (in my example above) is in DNS and make sure you specify host_1 in your policy with the C:.  I'd also make sure you exclude the directories with your virtual machines in them.  Forget about Virtual Machines, this is just a standard file level backup of that server.

 

-Jonathan

 


From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:Kevin.Whittaker AT syniverse DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:32 AM
To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

No.... That is not it.

 

I am backing up the virtual clients just fine, using standard NetBackup procedures.

 

I want to backup the actual servers C drive, not one of the VMWARE client's.

 

I believe I am just using the wrong terminology.

 

It is not even getting connected, because it keeps getting the 58 and 29 status codes on the backup.

 

Kevin

 


From: Martin, Jonathan [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:30 AM
To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

I'm not sure what the "core" is, but if you are backing up the disk files or data that resides on the master / host then you have to specify that host name in the policy.  If you want data on the virtual disks (not the virtual disks themselves) then you have to install the NBU client on the virtual machine and use that host name.

 

Think of backing up virtual machines like backing up cluster resources.  If you want a resource the cluster (virtual machine) has use the cluster (virtual machine) name.  If you want the node (host / master) info then use that hostname.  As usual, make sure all these names and IPs are in DNS, both forward and reverse.

 

-Jonathan

 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Kevin Whittaker
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:17 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE Backup question

All,

Netbackup 5.1MP6

Ok, I am going to try and not sound too stupid about this.  I am new to backing up VMWARE and a little confused.

We have a Windows 2003 , running VMWARE Workstation 5.  Well, we loaded NetBackup client on the 2 VMWARE clients, also running Windows 2003, and they both backed up successfully.

We loaded the NetBackup client on the core area of the server and keep getting a status code 58, for the first try and then a status code 24 for the second try.  I was told, as long as I am not backing up the dsk files, I should be able to do a normal backup of the core area.

I have done all the normal troubleshooting for 58 & 24 status codes but nothing seems to work.

I can ping the master server from the core area and I can also do a traceroute.

Anybody have any idea what I am missing?

Kevin Whittaker
Syniverse Technologies
Systems Engineer - UNIX Admin

 




 
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