Veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question

2007-08-03 10:17:10
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question
From: "Dyck, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Dyck AT cognos DOT com>
To: "Paul Keating" <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca>, "Paul Keating" <keat AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca>, <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:59:32 -0400
NP.  If any other Aptare user is interested, just fire me a request, I can send 
you the same stuff I sent Paul.


-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul 
Keating
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:49 AM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question

I know, bad form to respond to one's own post, but as an FYI....
another lister hooked me up with some custom report stuff for Aptare, to 
customise the "days" to coincide with backup windows.

Very cool.

Thanks JD.

Paul

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Keating
> Sent: August 3, 2007 9:07 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question
> 
> 
> HEAR HEAR!!
> 
> Same goes for Aptare.
> My reports come out based on Calander Days, but all I (or most storage 
> admins, I would imagine) care about are successes per backup window.
> 
> Given the choice, I would prefer "user defined" days.....or who really 
> cares about days, just make it windows.
> Then I could define my windows as Noon-noon during the week, and noon 
> Friday to noon Sunday (or Monday) for weekend full windows.
> 
> Paul
> 
> --
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> > briandiven AT northwesternmutual DOT com
> > Sent: August 3, 2007 4:32 AM
> > To: cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com; wts AT maine DOT edu; 
> > veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question
> > 
> > 
> > I have a question for the group.  I've had issues with this
> for years.
> > Veritas responded that they have about half their customers that 
> > want it this way and half that don't, so they don't actively pursue 
> > making this better.  I suggested that since a lot of backup windows
> fall somewhere
> > between the 6 PM to 6 AM timeframe, that if they let me
> define what a
> > "backup day" is, then I could say that NOON defines a day for me.  I 
> > believe that would alleviate this issue of double backups in one 
> > evening and none until after midnight the next day ... Which then
> pushes other
> > backups/resources out and causes me status 196's ... Which I then 
> > rerun during the day ... Which then sets an eternal motion of 
> > failures and late backups in flight until I just skip a night to get 
> > everything back in sync.
> > 
> > I'd love to hear your thoughts !!!
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On
> Behalf Of Curtis
> > Preston
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:16 PM
> > To: Wayne T Smith; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question
> > 
> > I had very minor issues with CBS (calendar-based schedules) and 
> > midnight issues.  I do know that if you tell it to go on Friday, and 
> > you have all windows open, it will actually go Friday morning (just 
> > after midnight).
> > Is that what you mean?
> > 
> > I don't use CBS for daily backups for the reasons I think you're 
> > alluding to.  You'll get two backups in one night and no
> backups until
> > after midnight the next day.
> > 
> > ---
> > W. Curtis Preston
> > Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> > VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> > Wayne T Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 2:48 PM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question
> > 
> > Of course!   Frequency-based backups don't care about midnight.
> > 
> > No joke, if I was recalling my previous post on Calendar-base 
> > backups, though. ;-)
> > 
> > cheers, wayne
> > 
> > Curtis Preston wrote, in part,  on 2007-08-02 5:39 PM:
> > > You meant that as a joke, right?  Almost all of my windows cross 
> > > midnight.
> > >   
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