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Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?

2007-07-24 19:05:01
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
To: "Conner, Neil" <neil AT mbari DOT org>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:52:54 -0400 (EDT)
Yeah but the Windows guys usually handle their own backups and we use 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES and they set the include/exclude-- otherwise, I would do 
that.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Conner, Neil wrote:

> Don't use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES then.
>
> Specify C: D: E: ... instead.  List all the drives possibly in use for all 
> the clients in the policy - clients with fewer drives configured won't 
> complain.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Justin 
> Piszcz
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:24 PM
> To: Curtis Preston
> Cc: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
> edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from 
> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>
> Already tried to exclude Shadow Copy Components:\ and System_State:\ no go
> for either, its not needed in my environment, is 1-3GB and sometimes
> causes failures with various clients, its a waste of time/resources and it
> will never be needed.  I have never had any luck excluding it though.
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:
>
>> OH!  That's not what you said...
>>
>> So you want an exclude pattern to exclude the registry.  Not sure if you
>> can do that.
>>
>> Another question is: why?  It's not that big.
>>
>> ---
>> W. Curtis Preston
>> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:20 PM
>> To: Curtis Preston
>> Cc: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
>> edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
>> from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>
>> I want to exclude the registry backup for all Windows Backups.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:
>>
>>> But don't you WANT shadow copy to run?  It's now the official way to
>> get
>>> a stable image of a running drive, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What extra stuff is getting backed up that you want to exclude,
>> Justin?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> W. Curtis Preston
>>>
>>> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>>>
>>> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:04 PM
>>> To: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
>>> from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shadow Copy Components:\ will not be backed up if Volume Shadow Copy
>>> service is disabled.
>>>
>>> With ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as backup selection, NetBackup calls the VSC
>>> service to create the Shadow Copy Components:\.  When the service is
>>> disabled, Shadow Copy Components:\ cannot be created therefore it is
>> not
>>> backed up.
>>>
>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>> Recovery Administrator
>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>> 304-554-5926
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared M Seaton/MGW/MYLAN
>>>
>>> 07/24/2007 04:52 PM
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
>>>
>>> cc
>>>
>>> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> Subject
>>>
>>> Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from
>>> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?Link
>>>
>> <Notes://LNMAIL2/852571D90071ABBB/DABA975B9FB113EB852564B5001283EA/D686E
>>> 1FAEBB4D5F08525732200724BAB>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There will be no errors for the backup job, but in the Event Viewer
>> you
>>> will see an error that Volume Shadow Copy service was trying to start
>>> but that it is disabled and cannot start.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>> Recovery Administrator
>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>> 304-554-5926
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
>>> Sent by: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> 07/24/2007 04:48 PM
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>>
>>> cc
>>>
>>> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> Subject
>>>
>>> Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from
>>> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Will that fail backups or will it skip the Shadow Copy Components?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could completely disable the Volume Shadow Copy service on the
>>> Windows
>>>> client if you don't want Shadow Copy Components:\
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We set ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES for all of our Windows hosts and let the
>>>> Windows
>>>>>> ADMINS take care of the include/exclude list and then it can be
>>> changed
>>>> on
>>>>>> their side whenever necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to EXCLUDE the Shadow Copy Components?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://forums.symantec.com/syment/board/message?board.id=21&message.id=
>>> 33230
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying this now but it appears it might not work with a 5.1MP4
>>>>> client?
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone here get this working with 5.1MP4?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>>> Recovery Administrator
>>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>>> 304-554-5926
>>>>
>>>>
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