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Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup and restore question

2007-07-24 14:34:34
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backup and restore question
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
To: "Mase, Vince" <Vince.Mase AT ironmountain DOT com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:18:59 -0400 (EDT)
That is a very good question, I just checked my 5.1MP4 environment with 
NDMP and they are using a client file list it appears, no special 
include/exclude.

Check page 52 of the NDMP manual, in particular, check point 1.

NDMP Operating Notes and Restrictions
Before troubleshooting a suspected problem, review the following operating 
notes and restrictions. To obtain troubleshooting information or restrictions 
that may apply to particular NDMP hosts, refer to gNDMP Information on the Webh 
on page xiii.  A tape created on an NDMP storage unit is in backup format and 
cannot be restored from a non-NDMP storage unit. If you duplicate an NDMP 
backup image the new copy is still in backup format and cannot be used for 
restores on a 
non-NDMP storage unit.

1. In the Backup Selections list for an NDMP policy, you can include only 
directory paths. Wildcards and individual file names are not allowed.
2. You cannot back up files where the path length is greater than 1024 
characters.
3. The NDMP protocol uses port 10000 for communication.
4. On UNIX systems, the NetBackup avrd process utilizes ICMP (Internet  Control 
Message Protocol) to ping NDMP hosts to verify network

Also check page 33-34:

The following Backup Selections capabilities are NOT supported for an NDMP 
policy:
  Wildcards in pathnames. For example, /home/* is an invalid entry.
  Individual file names. Only directory or volume names are allowed.
  Exclude list (because client software is not installed on the NDMP host). 
You can, however, exclude files by using the SET keyword as shown under 
Using Environment Variables in Backup Selections list.h The SET option 
allows you to exclude files on a backup. The format is vendor dependent; refer 
to 
the vendor fs documentation for more details on which variable can be 
passed and in what format.

Justin.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Mase, Vince wrote:

> What features are available for backup and restore via NDNP w/ NBU 5.1
> MP4.  Need the ability to backup a Cellera directly over fibre.  How
> granular can include and excludes be configured?
>
> thanks
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> Hi All
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> I was wondering what policy design some of you have followed for large
> Oracle environments
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> I am busy doing a redesign of an Netbackup environment which backs up
> about 70 DB's spread across about 30 servers (some of which are cross
> sites)
> I am doing my best not to end up with a solution which leaves RMAN
> scripts scattered all over the environment and loads of RMAN policies
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> Does anyone have any advice or strategies they can share?
> Also has anyone had any success deploying a generic script which queries
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> From: bobbyrjw <netbackup-forum AT backupcentral DOT com>
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] What is minmum version of NB to support LTO4
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> Can 5.0 or 5.1 support LTO-4 in the LTO-4 mode to utilize encryption?
> It is not a choic in the definitions of tape drives, so how could it be
> supported?
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> Anyone using LTO-4 with encryption yet?
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> How would you transfer the encryption keys to NetBackup as a DR or
> altenate site?
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> Bobby.
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> From: "Rajmund Siwik" <Rajmund.Siwik AT conexant DOT com>
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] What is minmum version of NB to support LTO4
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> I don't think LTO4 encryption is depended on Netbackup as encryption is
> happening at the drive, not at NBU.
> I have talked to local Symantec reps and they projected support for LTO4
> drives from NBU within 6 months.
> In order to manage keys you need IBM EKM software which is in its
> infancy stages. To my surprise IBM SDK software required for EKM is not
> easily available and won't run on Windows PC unless it is IBM PC.
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> I am in the process of testing and it is not easy at this point.
>
> --Rajmund
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> Can 5.0 or 5.1 support LTO-4 in the LTO-4 mode to utilize encryption?
> It is not a choic in the definitions of tape drives, so how could it be
> supported?
>
> Anyone using LTO-4 with encryption yet?
>
> How would you transfer the encryption keys to NetBackup as a DR or
> altenate site?
>
> Bobby.
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