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Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

2007-07-23 19:14:56
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
To: "Liddle, Stuart" <liddles AT amgen DOT com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
For example utilize include/exclude lists on the lists or find _some_ way to group the clients together, no?

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:

I retract my statement. Some environments could have a good use for that many polices I suppose..

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Liddle, Stuart wrote:

Ah....I see.

So, Justin, you have some "special" insight about everyone's backup
environment and business requirements that allows you to come up with a
blanket statement like that?



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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

Whoever has that many polices has some mental issues.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, briandiven AT northwesternmutual DOT com wrote:

I thought this pic would be appropriate for us ...



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Stuart
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies



yes just over 1100 policies....it's not quite 1 client per policy as
Curtis Preston suggests.  What we have done is to have a policy for a given
dataset.  For example, we have two exchange policies one has 13 exchange
servers in it and the other has 10.  The reason we have two is because they
are in different datacenters and we have a media server in each datacenter.



Most of our policies actually do have only one client per policy, but
because we are creating policies by dataset, we will have some that have
more than one client.



--stuart



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From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:20 PM
To: 'Liddle, Stuart'; 'Edson Noboru Yamada';
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies



1,100 policies!!!!!!





Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net>

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:liddles AT amgen DOT com]
        Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:59 PM
        To: WEAVER, Simon (external); 'Edson Noboru Yamada';
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies

        Hi,



        we are running NB 5.1 MP6 with around 1100 policies and over 1600
clients.  We have been having problems with the scheduler not starting
things when they are supposed to start.  The one thing that is very
important is to have the proper settings in the /etc/system file for shared
memory.  If you don't have this set correctly, you WILL have problems with
the scheduler.



        We had a case open with Symantec/Veritas about this and basically we
were told that it would be best to upgrade to 6.x because the scheduler has
been completely re-written and is much more efficient.  We hope to upgrade
to 6.5 later this year.  In the mean time we have to figure out creative
ways to deal with the problems of the scheduler getting bogged down.



        I believe that you should not have problems with only 100 policies
if you have your memory settings correct in /etc/system.



        good luck.



        --stuart




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        Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 6:42 AM
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        Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies



        Hi

        Well I know of a site that had 120 policies, but never reported an
issue. Although its alot, I am not personally aware of any recommendation
that states what the limit should be.



        Are you sure the frequency is right and the policy is enabled
correctly ?



        If at all possible, can you consolidate any of your existing
policies and merge them ?





        Regards

        Simon Weaver
        3rd Line Technical Support
        Windows Domain Administrator

        EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
        Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

        Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net>

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Yamada
                Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:43 AM
                To: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                Subject: [Veritas-bu] Maximum number of policies


                Hi

                I have an NBU 5.1 installation with one master server
(Solaris 9) and 6 media servers (RHEL4, Windows 2003).

                I´ve just created the 101st policy. The problem I´m running
into is that apparently the scheduler is simply ignoring
                the backup window configured (it was supposed to start at
8pm but the job only is added to the queue around 2am).

                My question is: NBU 5.1 may have some kind of 100 policies
limitation? Has anyone here with more than 100 policies/classes in place?

                Thank you

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