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Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL 2005 Backups

2007-07-11 06:47:09
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL 2005 Backups
From: "Kennedy, Cameron" <Cameron.Kennedy AT bovislendlease DOT com>
To: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:24:36 -0400
We use both methods but the deciding factor only comes down to whether our clients (app owners) want to pay for the SQL license or not. Our DBA are happy eitherway, and during our DR excercises earlier this year we had no problems with restoring DB's backed up using the sql agent.
 
We implement our online agent using the same process Simon described below.
 


From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external)
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:20 AM
To: 'Jimenez, Daniel'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL 2005 Backups

Hi Daniel
Well we used to do the backups to disk, however as we have no "proper" DBA, and administration was causing some issues (backups failing to write to disk, disk getting full, no alerts configured, ect) - the online agent was used.
 
I am recently new to 2005, but this is what I have done...(in short)
 
1) Configured the online agent on the master
2) create a policy using the ms-sql extension
3) configure SQL Online backups on the client
4) Create a batch file for all DB's to be backed up
5) Create a batch file for the backup and truncate the logs (this goes into a seperate policy BTW)
6) Test / troubleshoot and prove it works
7) Restore test.
 
Now, most DBA's stay away from online sql backups, claiming its problematic, unreliable. However, on 2 occasions now, NBU has restored SQL from a point in time backup from the DB and Trans log backup.
 
Maybe they fear they will lose their job? We do use SAP / Oracle online agents too, and I can confirm its very, very good! time saver. However, the DBA's still do DISK backups as well!
 
SQL online is expensive too! Up to you really. Cannot say its right or wrong. I am in the process of troubleshooting a SQL problem as I write this, and it may be down to NBU to prove its doing a good job!
 
anyhow, just my opinion. HTH
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net

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From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jimenez, Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:39 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] MS SQL 2005 Backups

Hey guys

 

We are going to start backing up MS SQL 2005 and I would like to know the best ways to backup this type of database? Can anyone through their experiences give me their solution and why they felt it was the best way to do this? I know there is the Veritas way and that may be the best way of doing these backups but I would like to hear some alternative ways that may be better than using the Veritas solution, thanks.

 

Daniel Jimenez

Backup and Recovery

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