Jeff
As pointed out earlier, should get an annoucement later today and hopefully
clear this up once and for all.
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner at water.com]
Sent: 17 May 2007 14:32
To: WEAVER, Simon (external); smpt; Scott Jacobson; Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
My point was to challenge the blatant statement. We can all opine and many
had long before his post was made. I just saw no reason why we should
accept that statement as the "fact" without some sort of support - hence my
ironic question about divination.
You say they're only giving you 5 months but I don't know where you got
that. 6.0 has been out much longer than that.
Personally I don't claim to "know" when 5.1 will be EOLed. I know what
Datalink told us but they could be as wrong as everyone else. It just
seems pointless to me not to move forward once 6.0 is mostly stable which by
all accounts it is with MP4. Sticking one's head in the sand isn't going to
make 6.x go away and as I previously wrote waiting for "new features and
fixes" in 6.5 is waiting for vaporware which I've never thought was a good
idea for many reasons including the possibility they won't materialize.
If your environment is totally static and your 5.1 (or even 3.4) is working
for you and you can handle everything that comes up without calling the
vendor don't move ahead. If, however, you work in shops that do actually
add new systems and technology from time to time it makes sense to plan for
moving ahead or at least be sure you know exactly what it is that prevents
moving ahead. Here we know we're going to do Data Domain soon and we'd
rather have 6.0 in our environment before that so we can know what changes
were introduced by 6.0 and which were later introduced by Data Domain.
There was a time I had the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mindset. What
I've learned however is that you often find yourself painted into corners
when you didn't take newer patches or distributions and suddenly have a
pressing business need to get more recent technology going. You end up
having to upgrade EVERYTHING rather than just adding the technology you
want. It is bad enough when the business imposes restrictions that keep you
from moving ahead but even worse when professional administrators become the
roadblocks themselves.
-----Original Message-----
From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:57 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; smpt; Scott Jacobson; Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
Jeff
Well think about it ..... Most companies announce end of life for a product
and normally give 12 - 18 months!
If what you are saying is right, then Symantec are giving us 5 MONTHS to
change ???
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner at water.com]
Sent: 16 May 2007 21:20
To: smpt; Scott Jacobson; WEAVER, Simon (external); Paul Keating;
VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
And you know this through divination maybe?
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of smpt
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Scott Jacobson; Simon (external) WEAVER; 'Paul Keating';
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
the end of support for 5.x will not be sooner than 12/2008
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Scott Jacobson <SJACOBSO at novell.com>
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 Oct 2007 End of Support
> Sent: 14 May '07 21:02
>
> I also believe 5.1 MP4+ is the most rock solid product I've run (less
> DSSU
> issues) and would prefer to stay on that version and not be forced
between
> choosing either 6.0 MP4+ or 6.5 GA
>
>
> I would suggest for those in the group who are also wanting to wait
> for 6.5 MP1+ to contact their Veritas/Symantec SE/Account Mgr's and
> let them know as a customer you're being placed between a rock and a
> hard place in terms of migration choices.
>
>
> In talking with my former RTAM and current local Symantec SE, I'm
> starting to hear they maybe considering the Oct 2007 date as a "soft"
> and not a hard date.
>
>
> Now maybe the time to put our voices behind this and tell them Oct
> 2007 end of support for 5.1 is unacceptable.
>
>
> Scott
>
>
> >>> "WEAVER, Simon (external)" <simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net>
> 5/14/2007 8:47 AM >>>
>
>
> Bit gutted really as I have personally found 5.1 to be rock solid
> here at both my sites!
>
>
> Guess 6.5 is coming sooner than expected now then !?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
>
> _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>
> Email: [LINK: mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net]
> Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> FROM: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] ON BEHALF OF Paul
> Keating
> SENT: 14 May 2007 15:42
> TO: VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1
> MP4to6.0 MP4
>
>
> [LINK:
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCent
> er/279039.pdf]
>
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_DataCenter/279
039.pdf
>
>
> --
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> FROM: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] ON BEHALF OF
> WEAVER, Simon (external)
> SENT: May 14, 2007 9:59 AM
> TO: 'Forester, Jack L'; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> SUBJECT: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1
> MP4to6.0 MP4
>
>
> can I have confirmation of this please or a web site or link ??
>
>
> Regards
>
> Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator
>
> _EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)_
> Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
>
> Email: [LINK: mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net]
> Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net
>
>
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