Hi Ed
That is part of my concern - this environment had major issues with the DB,
and although I have done a consistency check and it looks ok, I cannot help
feel that there is still an underlying problem somewhere.

If you have any other suggestions on what to check or how to check, that
would be of some help.

Of course, another option I guess would be to open a Support Call in
preperation for the upgrade.

Essentially, if all is well, it should go as planned. Of course, part of my
upgrade plan is to have a "rollback" plan to revert us back!

So there is some options open. I am pleased to hear MP4 is ok though.

Next time Ed, stand up :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org] 
Sent: 13 December 2006 00:14
To: Christopher Jay Manders
Cc: NB List Mail
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU 6 compatibility w/ 3.4 Clients?


On 12/12/2006 12:10 PM, Christopher Jay Manders wrote:
> I have been having just loads of fun with this upgrade, since here we
> have only limited access to client machines.
> 
> A 'drag' might even summarize the whole 6.0 experience.
> 
> EMM did not upgrade nicely, so all of our NDMP backups have been hosed
> up, plus Vault settings were hosed up to the point that nbvault would 
> not ever start. Then combine in the new 'well documented' feature of not 
> supporting older than old clients (for the record we note that we have 
> blissfully had no problems with 3.4 clients [such as for Mac8&9, Solaris 
> 2.5.1,2.6, HP/UX10.20, Windows95.98] in our previous 5.1 environment) 
> and we have a 'bad month' of lots of overtime effort... Our group has 
> discussed it and we have to term the experience as a 'downgrade' so far, 
> even though there are nice features in 6.0 as advertised. :(
> 
> So far, the cost for the upgrade has been more than any other 
> (3.4->4.5,
> 4.5->5.0, or 5.0->5.1).
> 
> It will be another month before I am over the upgrade.
> 
> And another month before I am caught up on sleep. ;)
> 
> I think this is the last 'upgrade' that we do. The next one will be 
> from
> scratch or not at all..with eyes wide shut. 8-)
> 
> I hope others have had a better time than we have. The Vault fix alone
> was enough to cause grey hair...

The EMM upgrade caused major grief for a bunch of customers for which 
the environment wasn't valid in the first place.  Given that you were 
running 3.4 and have been upgrading the whole time, there's a good 
chance you either broke some rules, took a shortcut you should not have 
taken over the years, or corrupted one or more of your various databases 
somewhere along the lines.

The presentation from Symantec I went to last week compared the 6.0 
upgrade to an "heart, lung, and kidney transplant".  I was tempted to 
speak up and say "without anesthesia" but I held my tongue :-).  They 
also said they wouldn't do that again.

The upgrade was definitely a hard pill to swallow but I do think that 
after MP4, we're back on a normal track again.  Those still at 5.x need 
to fix their databases *before* they upgrade, but after that at least 
they won't have some of the pain some of us have felt through MP3.  And 
it was major pain...

        .../Ed
-- 
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org

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