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2006-10-10 13:26:14
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups
From: dcarlisle at paychex.com (Carlisle, D Renee)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:26:14 -0400 
A "Synthetic Full"  uses the same amount of space as a real full.  You can save 
a little bit of space during the week if you use differential incremental 
versus cumulative incremental, but that would depend on your change rate.  I 
personally, would not use synthetic backups in a tape environment.  If you do 
your incremental backups to disk and only the full's to tape, that would be ok. 
 If you try and create a synthetic full off of a weeks worth of tapes it will 
be cumbersome and slow.

The biggest advantage for us with Synthetic full backups is that our backups 
that used to run for 12 hours on our client systems are now off loaded to run 
on the media server as the Synthetic is being created. 


 
 

Rene? Carlisle 
Sr. Systems Administrator
675 Basket Road
Webster, NY 14580 

Jer 29:11-13

 

 

585-216-0497 (w)
585-472-2360 (c)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces 
at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Anderson, Larry S.
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:29 PM
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups

Hi all,

     We have NetBackup 5.1 running in a Windows 2000/2003 environment.  I would 
like to implement synthetic backups, but have some conflicting info regarding 
them.  Will doing synthetic backups actually save tapes, or will it use the 
same amount of tape as a standard Full backup?  I have two different opinions 
being offered to me, and need to sort this out quickly.

As I understood it, a Synthetic would use 1 true FULL backup, and virtually 
create new ones based on pointers in the catalog based on the original full, 
and subsequent differentials.  Now I am being told that the "Synthetic" Full 
will use the same number of tapes as a traditional full, just coalesced from 
the original full and the differentials.  Can someone who has actually 
implemented synthetic point me in the right direction??






Larry Anderson
Senior Systems Administrator
Research Computing Facility
Mayo Foundation
(507)538-0393
anderson.larry at mayo.edu




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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: NetBackup 6.0 List File? (Henry Kemp)
   2. Logging problem. (David McWilliams)
   3. Re: Logging problem. (H?rlimann)
   4. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams)
   5. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz)
   6. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz)
   7. BMR HPUX boot client failed (chodhetz)
   8. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams)
   9. Re: BMR HPUX boot client failed (Ray Schafer)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:39:57 +0100
From: Henry Kemp <hkemp at lastminute.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File?
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Message-ID: <FD7EE21B-68B7-46AB-951B-7A32506F64CF at lastminute.com>
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These are the list files I used last time.

# Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6

ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list

# Veritas NetBackup v5.1

ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list

# Veritas NetBackup v6.0

ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.list

Then you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download with 
wget or your favorite download tool.

root at blah# wget ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gz

Henry

On 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote:

> Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file for 
> the Symantec blind FTP site? Thanks!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jason Ellis
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Henry Kemp, NetBackup Consultant
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:08:25 -0400
From: "David McWilliams" <davidkmcw at gmail.com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: "NetBackup List" <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID:
        <7d60773b0610090608h7972937du380b22854831c5f2 at mail.gmail.com>
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Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I have 
checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the admin GUI 
and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in 
excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were 
sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not.
A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would 
appreciate any ideas?

--
Sl?inte,

David

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http://davidmcw.tripod.com

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:20:32 +0200
From: H?rlimann, Flavio <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: "David McWilliams" <davidkmcw at gmail.com>,        "NetBackup List"
        <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
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        <2282D5F9166AAD4BB5104FDA404B54D6BCEDD1 at SM0104.swi.srse.net>
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Hi David

It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the Admin 
console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line.
See the troubleshooting guide page 74.

Cheers
Flave

________________________________

From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces 
at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David McWilliams
Sent: Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08
To: NetBackup List
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.


Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I have 
checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the admin GUI 
and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in 
excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were 
sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. A filename example is 
51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I would appreciate any ideas?

--
Sl?inte,

David

Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
http://davidmcw.tripod.com

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:32:57 -0400
From: "David McWilliams" <davidkmcw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: " H?rlimann, Flavio " <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net>
Cc: NetBackup List <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID:
        <7d60773b0610090632n39ddd5bdu352cbe9cc692f1ca at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the bottom panel 
'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is minimal' If I 
then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, it goes back to 4 for 
all. Is this getting set elsewhere?

On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net> wrote:
>
>  Hi David
>
> It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru the 
> Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line.
> See the troubleshooting guide page 74.
>
> Cheers
> Flave
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *David 
> McWilliams
> *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08
> *To:* NetBackup List
> *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
>
> Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in 
> /usr/openv/logs. I have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but 
> nothing.I have checked the admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. 
> Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. 
> We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned 
> down all logging, but I guess not.
> A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I 
> would appreciate any ideas?
>
> --
> Sl?inte,
>
> David
>
> Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> http://davidmcw.tripod.com
>
> Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
>



--
Sl?inte,

David

Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
http://davidmcw.tripod.com

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:44:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz at lucidpixels.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: David McWilliams <davidkmcw at gmail.com>
Cc: NetBackup List <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610090944030.25182 at p34.internal.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Run the following every hour:

 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/vxlogmgr --auto --del --quiet

This will take care of them for you.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote:

> Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in 
> /usr/openv/logs. I have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but 
> nothing.I have checked the admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. 
> Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. 
> We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned 
> down all logging, but I guess not.
> A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I 
> would appreciate any ideas?
> 
> --
> Sl?inte,
> 
> David
> 
> Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> http://davidmcw.tripod.com
> 
> Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> 
> 

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:00:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz at lucidpixels.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: David McWilliams <davidkmcw at gmail.com>
Cc: " H?rlimann,  Flavio " <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net>,  NetBackup
        List <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610090959520.25182 at p34.internal.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

There is also the vxlogcfg options to set the Debug and Diagnostic Levels,
6 = the highest, 0 = off for the vx* processes.

Justin.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote:

> Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the bottom 
> panel 'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is 
> minimal' If I then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, 
> it goes back to 4 for all. Is this getting set elsewhere?
> 
> On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi David
> >
> > It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru 
> > the Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line.
> > See the troubleshooting guide page 74.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Flave
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> > veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *David 
> > McWilliams
> > *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08
> > *To:* NetBackup List
> > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
> >
> > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in 
> > /usr/openv/logs. I have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but 
> > nothing.I have checked the admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. 
> > Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. 
> > We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned 
> > down all logging, but I guess not.
> > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I 
> > would appreciate any ideas?
> >
> > --
> > Sl?inte,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> > http://davidmcw.tripod.com
> >
> > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sl?inte,
> 
> David
> 
> Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> http://davidmcw.tripod.com
> 
> Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> 

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:53:37 +0800 (CST)
From: chodhetz <chodhetz at yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR HPUX boot client failed
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Message-ID: <20061009145337.39866.qmail at web31210.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear all,
   
  i'm using BMR 6.0 MP3
   
  BMR Main Server and boot server for hpux installed in NetBackup Master Server
   
  i want to perform bmr restore hpux client, but when i try to boot client to 
BMR boot server, show 
   
  Booting...
Boot IO Dependent Code (IODC) revision 4
  
HARD Booted.
  ISL Revision A.00.44  Mar 12, 2003
  ISL booting  hpux (;0)/bmrpap1/INSTALL
  Boot
: lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL
lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL: cannot open, or not executable Exec failed: No 
such file or directory

  anybody can help ??
   
  Best regards,
   
  Chodhetz

                
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:54:57 -0400
From: "David McWilliams" <davidkmcw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
To: "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz at lucidpixels.com>
Cc: " H?rlimann,  Flavio " <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net>,  NetBackup
        List <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID:
        <7d60773b0610090754q19f7b51ah797b5bac3654ebd1 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There should be big sticker on this thing that says 'WARNING- contains unified 
logging'

On 10/9/06, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz at lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>
> There is also the vxlogcfg options to set the Debug and Diagnostic 
> Levels,
> 6 = the highest, 0 = off for the vx* processes.
>
> Justin.
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, David McWilliams wrote:
>
> > Under 'Host Properties'... 'Master Server"... Logging... in the 
> > bottom
> panel
> > 'Debug Logging' section. I set all to same as global, which is minimal'
> If I
> > then exit out of the GUI and restart all NBU processes, it goes back 
> > to
> 4
> > for all. Is this getting set elsewhere?
> >
> > On 10/9/06, H?rlimann, Flavio <Flavio.Huerlimann at sunrise.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi David
> > >
> > > It's the unified logging. You can minimze the logging either thru 
> > > the Admin console (robust logging enable too) or with the command line.
> > > See the troubleshooting guide page 74.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Flave
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> > > veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *David
> McWilliams
> > > *Sent:* Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 15:08
> > > *To:* NetBackup List
> > > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Logging problem.
> > >
> > > Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in
> /usr/openv/logs. I
> > > have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have 
> > > checked
> the
> > > admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it 
> > > created
> over
> > > 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some 
> > > troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned down all 
> > > logging, but I guess
> not.
> > > A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-0000000001.log. I
> would
> > > appreciate any ideas?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sl?inte,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> > > http://davidmcw.tripod.com
> > >
> > > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sl?inte,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
> > http://davidmcw.tripod.com
> >
> > Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
> > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> >
>



--
Sl?inte,

David

Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ 
http://davidmcw.tripod.com

Get a safer, faster, better web browser @ 
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 08:45:22 -0700
From: "Ray Schafer" <ray_schafer at symantec.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR HPUX boot client failed
To: "chodhetz" <chodhetz at yahoo.com.sg>,
        <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Message-ID:
        <D3B33C1884C0DC49A4DDBBDE36766B4C03E00F7F at 
svlxchcln6.enterprise.veritas.com>
        
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Make sure you did a prepare to restore, and that the boot server (or
helper) is on the same subnet as the client.  

 

 

If there is more than one Ignite server on the subnet or if you are using a 
boot helper to boot from an Ignite server on a different subnet, specify the 
Ignite server to boot from by using the following command (replace x.x.x.x with 
the IP address of the Ignite server and y.y with the gateway): 

 

boot lan.x.x.x.x.y.y

 

 

  _____  

From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of chodhetz
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:54 AM
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR HPUX boot client failed

 

Dear all,

 

i'm using BMR 6.0 MP3

 

BMR Main Server and boot server for hpux installed in NetBackup Master Server

 

i want to perform bmr restore hpux client, but when i try to boot client to BMR 
boot server, show 

 

Booting...
Boot IO Dependent Code (IODC) revision 4


HARD Booted.

ISL Revision A.00.44  Mar 12, 2003

ISL booting  hpux (;0)/bmrpap1/INSTALL

Boot
: lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL
lan(0/1/2/0;0)/bmrpap1/WINSTALL: cannot open, or not executable Exec failed: No 
such file or directory

anybody can help ??

 

Best regards,

 

Chodhetz

  

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