Okay, so I thought I would weigh in on this issue, as someone in the
know. NBU Client and option licenses are required for each OS type on a
physical server. I.e. if you have Windows and Linux running on separate
VMs you would need two sets of licenses. If you have 5 Windows VMs
running on a server, you only need one set of licenses. When I say
"set" I mean that you need a minimum of one client and additionally any
agents/options need for applications.
-Steve
________________________________
Steve Dvorak
Western Area Systems Engineering Manager
Backup Infrastructure, Storage & Server Management
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby
Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:05 AM
To: Koster, Phil; veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
Solaris10 can now use mutliple "zones" (a lot of virtual servrs).
There is a special note that says that you only have to have one license
for the physical box.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/275107.htm
There is no documentation like this relating to VMWare.
Bobby.
From: "Koster, Phil" <pkoster at ci.grand-rapids.mi.us>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue PM 01:40:36 EDT
To: veritas-bu <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
According to the latest OS compatibility matrix, Bobby is still right
as it reads the same for NBU 6 and 5 as far as VMWare goes.
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Server/278
064.pdf#search=%22NetBackup%206%20Compatibility%20Matrix%22
I think ultimately it will come down to the answer each of us
individually get from Symantec though. ;-)
Thanks.
Phil Koster
Network Administrator
City of Grand Rapids
Direct: 616-456-3136
Helpdesk: 456-3999
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Horalek [mailto:jimh at federaledge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:34 PM
To: 'Bobby Williams'; 'Scott Jacobson';
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 'Hampus Lind'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
I believe Scott is correct. There were a few policy changes since the
product 6.0 was delivered.
Unfortunately they are not well documented. Vmware was a special case.
Once license of each type to be backed up should all you need.
However, the Symantec/Veritas License desk has the final say.(Tech
support can answer you question also)
Jim
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Bobby
Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:43 AM
To: Scott Jacobson; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Hampus Lind
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
That is not what I "infer" from the support matrix (5.X)
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Ser
ver/263839.pdf
It indicates that the VM host needs a license and each client needs a
license.
If you have something that shows this better than the support matrix,
please let us know. We are way over purchasing licenses if you are
correct.
Bobby.
From: "Scott Jacobson" <SJACOBSO at novell.com>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue AM 11:22:12 EDT
To: "Bobby Williams" <bobbyrjw at bellsouth.net>,
<veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>,
"Hampus Lind" <hampus.lind at rps.police.se>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
Bobby,
Unfortunately what you've said about VMWare licensing is not correct.
Don't feel bad, there are "Symantec" sales folks who also don't
understand it.
Here is how the licencing works:
With one VMWare ESX Server and:
1. Five Windows Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on
each one you claim or account for the use of "one" Windows client
license.
2. Five Linux Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on each
one you claim or account for the use of "one" Linux client license.
3. Five NetWare Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on
each one you claim or account for the use of "one" NetWare client
license.
If you also use the Traditional Method option to backup the ESX Server
itself, you would claim or account for the use of one more Linux client
license.
For the above, four licenses would be used in total.
Regards,
Scott
>>> Bobby Williams <bobbyrjw at bellsouth.net> 9/19/2006 6:55 AM >>>
The biggest drawback to using NetBackup for VMWare is the license. You
have to have a license for the VMWare box and all of the Virtual systems
on it.
You could use the VMWare backup utility to back up to a NFS mounted
drive and put the data on a system that is being backed up the
NetBackup.
Bobby.
From: "Hampus Lind" <hampus.lind at rps.police.se>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue AM 08:16:48 EDT
To: <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VmWare..
Hi all,
Any one running Vmware against netbackup?
We have a new HP blade system which will run Vmware, and I wonder how I
can back this up to netbackup? Our blade guys tell me that vmware comes
with its own backup solution that is preferred to use.
Please advice in what is the best way to handle backups of vmware
system.
Thanks and regards,
Hampus Lind
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E-mail: hampus.lind at rps.police.se
Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson Drive
Chattanooga, TN 37421
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