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[Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing

2006-09-19 14:04:46
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing
From: bobbyrjw at bellsouth.net (Bobby Williams)
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:04:46 -0400
Solaris10 can now use mutliple "zones" (a lot of virtual servrs).

There is a special note that says that you only have to have one license for 
the physical box.
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/275107.htm

There is no documentation like this relating to VMWare.


Bobby.



From: "Koster, Phil" <pkoster at ci.grand-rapids.mi.us>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue PM 01:40:36 EDT
To: veritas-bu <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing

 According to the latest OS compatibility matrix, Bobby is still right as it 
reads the same for NBU 6 and 5 as far as VMWare goes.  
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Server/278064.pdf#search=%22NetBackup%206%20Compatibility%20Matrix%22

I think ultimately it will come down to the answer each of us individually get 
from Symantec though. ;-)

Thanks.

Phil Koster
Network Administrator
City of Grand Rapids
Direct: 616-456-3136
Helpdesk: 456-3999

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Horalek [mailto:jimh at federaledge.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:34 PM
To: 'Bobby Williams'; 'Scott Jacobson'; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu; 
'Hampus Lind'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing

I believe Scott is correct. There were a few policy changes since the product 
6.0 was delivered.
Unfortunately they are not well documented. Vmware was a special case. 
Once license of each type to be backed up should all you need.
However, the Symantec/Veritas License desk has the final say.(Tech support can 
answer you question also)

Jim

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Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:43 AM
To: Scott Jacobson; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Hampus Lind
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing


That is not what I "infer" from the support matrix (5.X) 
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Ser
ver/263839.pdf

It indicates that the VM host needs a license and each client needs a license.

If you have something that shows this better than the support matrix, please 
let us know.  We are way over purchasing licenses if you are correct.

Bobby.






From: "Scott Jacobson" <SJACOBSO at novell.com>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue AM 11:22:12 EDT
To: "Bobby Williams" <bobbyrjw at bellsouth.net>, 
        <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>, 
        "Hampus Lind" <hampus.lind at rps.police.se>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VMWare Licencing

Bobby,
 
Unfortunately what you've said about VMWare licensing is not correct. 
Don't feel bad, there are "Symantec" sales folks who also don't understand it.
 
Here is how the licencing works:
 
With one VMWare ESX Server and:
 
1. Five Windows Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on each one 
you claim or account for the use of "one" Windows client license.
2. Five Linux Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on each one 
you claim or account for the use of "one" Linux client license.
3. Five NetWare Guests and the NetBackup client software installed on each one 
you claim or account for the use of "one" NetWare client license.
 
If you also use the Traditional Method option to backup the ESX Server itself, 
you would claim or account for the use of one more Linux client license.
 
For the above, four licenses would be used in total.
 
Regards,
Scott

>>> Bobby Williams <bobbyrjw at bellsouth.net> 9/19/2006 6:55 AM >>>
The biggest drawback to using NetBackup for VMWare is the license.  You have to 
have a license for the VMWare box and all of the Virtual systems on it.

You could use the VMWare backup utility to back up to a NFS mounted drive and 
put the data on a system that is being backed up the NetBackup.

Bobby.


From: "Hampus Lind" <hampus.lind at rps.police.se>
Date: 2006/09/19 Tue AM 08:16:48 EDT
To: <veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup and VmWare..

Hi all,



Any one running Vmware against netbackup?

We have a new HP blade system which will run Vmware, and I wonder how I can 
back this up to netbackup? Our blade guys tell me that vmware comes with its 
own backup solution that is preferred to use.



Please advice in what is the best way to handle backups of vmware system.



Thanks and regards,



Hampus Lind
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Bobby Williams
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