Tim
VSS / VSP will BE enabled by default here, no question. When you configured
and played around with VSS / VSP, one thing Netbackup would have told you to
do is stop / restart services on Master, and possibly exit the application.
What I tend to do is stop all services and media services, BUT importantly,
where possible the client as well (Reboot is nice where possible).
Did you not stop / restart any services by chance?
Also remember, VSS/VSP uses disk space - so depending on how its configured
(abort of failure or disable on failure), you can still end up with a status
1 - more so if disk space is consumed.
VSS/VSP is a little hit / miss - sometimes it works and grabs the files
ok.... other times it doesnt! - For performance reasons and on my large file
servers I dont care much about VSS/VSP - as long as I can get the data back
(and 99.8% of streams end in 0) thats fine!
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at
Astrium-eads.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilkinson, Tim [mailto:Tim.Wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au]
Sent: 06 July 2006 00:39
To: WEAVER, Simon; Martin, Jonathan (Contractor);
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
The plot thickens a bit here.
We had to have a whole building power outage so had to bring everything
down. When we brought it back up there were a few issues (no policies or
settings were actually changed to my knowledge) but were fixed but strangely
this inconsistency has disappeared; the server that was reporting open file
issues with DHCP dbs, etc now doesn't have any open file issues. I'm not
sure if rebooting everything has got VSP doing it's thing suddenly or if
it's been fixed some other way.
Obviously I'm happy both systems are doing the same thing but I'd love to
know what suddenly fixed the open file errors. Since I first started this
thread, I've found out that VSP is setup for everything by default unless
otherwise specified (according to admin guide); I had previously thought VSP
wasn't configured for clients as we had not configured them but it seems it
is the other way around.
Perhaps the power outage made VSP work?
I'm finding the open file thing a bit hit and miss to be honest.
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From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net]
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 1:58 AM
To: 'Martin, Jonathan (Contractor)'; Wilkinson, Tim;
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
Jonathan
As mentioned, by default I believe it makes a backup of the DHCP Database
now (at least thats how I see it in win2k3).
But yes, feel free to exclude the "live" version, if you are sure the backup
version is being made :-)
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at
Astrium-eads.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 at intersil.com]
Sent: 21 June 2006 13:23
To: Wilkinson, Tim; WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
The DHCP database is recreated when the DHCP network service restarts is
there isn't one already there. While it would be *nice* to be able to
recover it, I usually exclude it if I get the open file backup errors. I
think Microsoft is replacing these legacy JET databases in "longhorn." I'd
say its about time, considering this has been an issue since windows NT!
-Jonathan
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Wilkinson,
Tim
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:07 AM
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
Simon,
I've researched the DHCP thing and by default it backs itself up every hour,
so I'm quite happy that I'm getting a backup of what I need. However, I'm
trying to figure out why one server has this issue of open files where the
other one doesn't; both are Win2k SP4.
No VSP/VSS is configured for either of the DHCP servers (VSP is enabled on
both networks but not for those servers).
I suppose I actually expect to get the errors regarding open files but it
seems strange that one server doesn't seem to have problem with the open
DHCP files. I'm probably looking for issues here but I hate things not
behaving as expected (I doubt I'll lose too much sleep though).
Cheers,
Tim
_____
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver at astrium.eads.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 June 2006 3:44 PM
To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
Tim
Its a DHCP database - by default, you may find if its alive and in use, you
will get a status 1 back. You can backup the DHCP databse within the DHCP
Admin tool (if I recall) and make a backup copy of it.
Is one server running VSS or VSP? Check in the master properties under
Client Attributes. If the servers are not listed, add them and see what is
enabled under windows open file backup tab :-)
Also, are both servers in use? What does the Problem report show for this
box Tim? Also, confirm that the box that appears to be working ok is
definetely backing up the same file, and its not excluded.
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver at Astrium-eads.net> Simon.Weaver at
Astrium-eads.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilkinson, Tim [mailto:Tim.Wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au]
Sent: 21 June 2006 00:52
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Inconsistencies with some open file issues?
Hi,
We have NBU6 MP2 installed on 2 separate networks; both backing up DHCP
servers (both Win2k) using ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES. One of them backs up both Full
and Incrementals without any errors, the other having issues with DHCP files
(reporting the file as being open; files such as dhcp.mdb) for both Full and
Incrementals.
I don't think it's a huge issue as such as the files should be backed up
using SYSTEM_STATE (which is implied via A_L_D) or the MS automated backup
of DHCP (residing in ...\dhcp\backup dir) but I"m trying to figure out why
one server reports issues with open files and the other doesn't, when
they're effectively backing up the same thing.
Cheers,
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