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Sorry, I had the INTERVAL and FREQ parts backwards and it was not very
clear. The write-up below may make more sense:
Freq is measured when the backup ends if you are using Freq based
scheduling. If you are using Interval mode scheduling when the backup ends
does not matter. Its a bit confusing but as everyone knows there are only 2
types of schedules, calendar and freq. But if you chose freq based schedule=
s
then bpsched has 2 processing modes it can use and that is freq and
interval. Here are a few snips from a verbose bpsched that shows this.
06:03:03 [2116.2240] <4> in_interval_mode: IN INTERVAL MODE
.....
15:31:26 [1820.1800] <4> in_interval_mode: NOT INTERVAL MODE -- not an
integral number of days
15:31:26 [1820.1800] <4> backup_due: using frequency-only mode
Hope that helps
Steve
On 5/18/06, Steve <nbu.admin AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
> I hate to send this out 3 times in a row but it does address the
> question. I hate to send this out 3 times in a row but it does address th=
e
> question. Freq ONLY depends on when the backup ends for INTERVAL based
> schedules. This is what used to cause sliding windows of old. Freq based
> Freq schedules do not care when the backup last finished.
>
> Below is a small write-up concerning the 2 processing types that NBU uses
> for Freq. based schedules. Freq based schedules can use either Freq or
> Interval mode depending on the Interval setting that is chosen.
>
> Frequency based Sched vs Interval
>
> Interval =3D 24 hour frequency(24 hours, 1 day, 7days ect.)
>
> Frequency =3D Any non-24 hour frequency (12 hours, 27, hours 80 hours ect=
.)
>
> If Interval mode scheduling is used the time of the backup is calculated
> from when the windows was initially open. So if the window opens for a
> class-sched at 8pm on a Monday and the frequency is 24 hours but the back=
up
> does not start until Midnight the job will be available to run at 8pm the
> next day. But if the sched was setup to run every 26 hours then that same
> job would not be available to run until 2am the next day.
> Hope that helps
> Steve
>
> On 5/18/06, Bob Stump <stumpb AT michigan DOT gov> wrote:
> >
> > "frequency is measured from when the backup ends"
> >
> > Will someone please provide me the documentation that states this?
> > I have been looking for it for literally YEARS...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> "Tristan Ball" <Tristan.Ball AT vsl.com DOT au> 5/17/2006 10:07 PM >>>
> >
> > Yes - and be aware that the frequency is measured from when the backup
> > ends!
> >
> > I use 5 days on my "weekly" backups, and 12 hours on my nightly's. :-)
> >
> > t.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Tristan Ball
> > System Administrator
> > Vision Systems
> > +61-3-9211-7064
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:
> > veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] *On Behalf Of *Wilkinson,
> > Tim
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:48 AM
> > *To:* veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] 'Frequency' schedule type
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how this actually works as I think it works a
> > little differently from how I thought it worked. We have a couple of po=
lices
> > that do a full backup weekly, with the frequency set to 1 week. However=
, the
> > jobs didn't run on the weekend; there were no errors, they just didn't =
run.
> > The only reason I can think of this happening is the job falling outsid=
e
> > of the start window. From what I've read, the frequency is the minimum
> > amount of tim that must pass before the next schedule runs, which means=
that
> > we should probably set the weekly jobs to having a frequency of 6 days =
to
> > avoid it falling outside the start window. Would this be correct?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
> > Tim Wilkinson
> > I.T. Support Officer
> > Science Corporate Information Systems
> > Defence Science & Technology Organisation
> > Department of Defence
> >
> > Tel: (02) 96921484
> > Fax: (02) 96921562
> > Email:***** tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au*
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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<div>
<p>Sorry, I had the INTERVAL and FREQ parts backwards and it was not very c=
lear. The write-up below may make more sense:</p>
<p>Freq is measured when the backup ends if you are using Freq based schedu=
ling. If you are using Interval mode scheduling when the backup ends does n=
ot matter. Its a bit confusing but as everyone knows there are only 2 types=
of schedules, calendar and freq. But if you chose freq based schedules the=
n bpsched has 2 processing modes it can use and that is freq and interval. =
Here are a few snips from a verbose bpsched that shows this.
<br></p></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">
<p>06:03:03 [2116.2240] <4> in_interval_mode: IN INTERVAL MODE</p>
<p>.....</p><font size=3D"2">
<p>15:31:26 [1820.1800] <4> in_interval_mode: NOT INTERVAL MODE -- no=
t an integral number of days<br>15:31:26 [1820.1800] <4> backup_due: =
using frequency-only mode</p></font></font></div>
<div>Hope that helps</div>
<div>Steve<br><br> </div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 5/18/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Steve</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:nbu.admin AT gmail DOT com">nbu.admin AT gmail
DOT com</a=
>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div>I hate to send this out 3 times in a row but it does address the quest=
ion. I hate to send this out 3 times in a row but it does address the quest=
ion. Freq ONLY depends on when the backup ends for INTERVAL based schedules=
. This is what used to cause sliding windows of old. Freq based Freq schedu=
les do not care when the backup last finished.
</div>
<p>Below is a small write-up concerning the 2 processing types that NBU use=
s for Freq. based schedules. Freq based schedules can use either Freq or In=
terval mode depending on the Interval setting that is chosen.</p>
<p>Frequency based Sched vs Interval</p>
<p>Interval =3D 24 hour frequency(24 hours, 1 day, 7days ect.)</p>
<p>Frequency =3D Any non-24 hour frequency (12 hours, 27, hours 80 hours ec=
t.)</p>
<p>If Interval mode scheduling is used the time of the backup is calculated=
from when the windows was initially open. So if the window opens for a cla=
ss-sched at 8pm on a Monday and the frequency is 24 hours but the backup do=
es not start until Midnight the job will be available to run at 8pm the nex=
t day. But if the sched was setup to run every 26 hours then that same job =
would not be available to run until 2am the next day.=20
</p>
<div>Hope that helps</div></div>
<div><span class=3D"sg">
<div>Steve<br> </div></span></div>
<div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_10b4792e76b41240_2">
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 5/18/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Bob Stump</b> <<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this=
)" href=3D"mailto:stumpb AT michigan DOT gov" target=3D"_blank">stumpb AT
michigan DOT go=
v</a>
> wrote:</span>=20
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div style=3D"MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma"></div>
<div><span>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">"frequency is measured fro=
m when the backup ends"</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"></font> </div></span></div=
>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">Will someone please provide me =
the documentation that states this?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff">I have been looking for it for =
literally YEARS...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"></font> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff"></font> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div><br><br>>>> "Tristan Ball" <<a onclick=3D"return=
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:Tristan.Ball AT vsl DOT
com=
.au" target=3D"_blank">Tristan.Ball AT vsl.com DOT au</a>> 5/17/2006 10:07
PM &=
gt;>>=20
<br> </div></div>
<div><span>
<div style=3D"COLOR: #000000">
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff=
" size=3D"2">Yes - and be aware that the frequency is measured from when th=
e backup ends!</font></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff=
" size=3D"2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff=
" size=3D"2">I use 5 days on my "weekly" backups, and 12 hours on=
my nightly's. :-)</font></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff=
" size=3D"2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff=
" size=3D"2">t.</font></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">---</font></div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Tristan Ball</font></di=
v>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">System Administrator</f=
ont></div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Vision Systems</font></=
div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">+61-3-9211-7064</font><=
/div>
<div align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div> </div><br>
<div lang=3D"en-us" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left">
<hr>
<font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><b>From:</b> <a onclick=3D"return top.js.O=
penExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman DOT
eng.=
auburn.edu" target=3D"_blank">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu</a> [=
mailto:=20
<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:=
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
target=3D"_blank">veritas-bu-admin=
@mailman.eng.auburn.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wilkinson, Tim<br><b>Sent:=
</b>
Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a onclick=3D"return top.js.O=
penExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman DOT
eng.auburn=
.edu" target=3D"_blank">veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b>
[Veritas-bu] 'Frequency' schedule type<br></font><br> </div>
<div></div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Hi,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I'm trying to understand how thi=
s actually works as I think it works a little differently from how I though=
t it worked. We have a couple of polices that do a full backup weekly, with=
the frequency set to 1 week. However, the jobs didn't run on the weekend; =
there were no errors, they just didn't run.=20
</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">The only reason I can think of t=
his happening is the job falling outside of the start window. From what I'v=
e read, the frequency is the minimum amount of tim that must pass before th=
e next schedule runs, which means that we should probably set the weekly jo=
bs to having a frequency of 6 days to avoid it falling outside the start wi=
ndow. Would this be correct?=20
</font></span></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font> </div>
<div align=3D"left"><span></span><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D"2">C<sp=
an>heers,</span></font></font><br><br> </div>
<ul>
<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">----------------------------------------=
-----------------------------</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Ti=
m Wilkinson</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I.T. Support Officer=
</font>
<br><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Science Corporate Information Systems<=
/font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Defence Science & Technology=
Organisation</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Department of Defe=
nce</font>
</p>
<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Tel: (02) 96921484</font> <br><font face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Fax: (02) 96921562</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" si=
ze=3D"2">Email:<u></u></font><u></u><u> <font face=3D"Times New Roman" colo=
r=3D"#0000ff">
<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:=
tim.wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au" target=3D"_blank">tim.wilkinson AT
dsto DOT def=
ence.gov.au</a></font></u> </p><br></ul>
<div> </div></div></span></div>
<div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></span></div></blockquote></div><br=
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