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Well we dont back up desktops - so outlook would not be open.
But I have found NBU 5.1 to perform backups with status 0 all the time. the
only time I see a "1" status is if there is a file it cannot open, but even
so, its not been a critical file.
When you enable VSS/VSP - take a look at this document.....
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/276739.htm
<http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/276739.htm>
Might be of a point of reference. One of my sites was continually getting
156 messages and they called Veritas... (before calling Symantec. Guess what
they told them to do??)
Answer.... turn off VSS !!!! Well it was disabled, and the backups have
worked solid since.
I also come from a NBU 3.4 with OTM was used (open transaction manager) and
that still had issues, although in some cases, it was ok.
I dont list .pst files :-)
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilkinson, Tim [mailto:Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au]
Sent: 04 May 2006 23:40
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows
Not yet - I'm still looking at it in a test environment.
How would you backup open windows files on Windows 2000 without it? It's
quite likely that people leave Outlook open on their desktop at the end of
the day and in the past this has caused open file issues (as well as any
documents they might be working on).
_____
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
Sent: Friday, 5 May 2006 2:55 AM
To: Wilkinson, Tim; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows
Cons: Backups can fail with status 156
Pros: Well I dont use it - and even with AD, its not even used. and yet it
still gets backed up!
VSP/VSS within Netbackup will need disk space. Have you tried it yet?
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
-----Original Message-----
From: Wilkinson, Tim [mailto:Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au]
Sent: 04 May 2006 06:55
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows
Hi,
I'm a bit of a newbie to Netbackup (but learning shed-loads rather rapidly)
and have a question about VSP for open file backups. I've had some people
who use this and others who don't although I've not had any reasons for
either case.
I'm wondering if it's generally a good idea on things like Windows file
servers (where especially pst files are often open), DHCP and DDNS servers
(non Active Directory DDNS). On Windows 2003, it seems VSS is better for
open file backups (although this may be wrong).
What are the cons with using VSP?
Cheers,
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Well we dont back up desktops - so outlook=
would not=0D
be open.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>But I have found NBU 5.1 to perform backups with status 0=
all the=0D
time. the only time I see a "1" status is if there is a file it cannot=
open, but=0D
even so, its not been a critical file.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>When you enable VSS/VSP - take a look at this=0D
document.....</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff><A=0D
href=
=3D"http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/276739.htm";>http://seer.support.ve=
ritas.com/docs/276739.htm</A></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>Might be of a point of reference. One of my sites was=
continually=0D
getting 156 messages and they called Veritas... (before calling Symantec.=
Guess=0D
what they told them to do??)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>Answer.... turn off VSS !!!! Well it was disabled, and the=
backups=0D
have worked solid since.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3D#0000ff>I=0D
also come from a NBU 3.4 with OTM was used (open transaction manager) and=
that=0D
still had issues, although in some cases, it was=0D
ok.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D284225105-05052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3D#0000ff>I=0D
dont list .pst files :-) </FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=
=3D2><FONT=0D
face=3DArial><FONT=0D
color=3D#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=
=3D2><FONT=0D
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon=
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=0D
face=3DArial color=3D#0000a0 size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical=
Support<BR>Windows=0D
Domain Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial>=
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>EADS=
Astrium=0D
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT face=
=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3=0D
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=
=3D2><EM>Email:=0D
</EM></FONT><A href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT face=
=3DArial=0D
size=3D2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=
=3Dleft><FONT=0D
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=
Wilkinson, Tim=0D
[mailto:Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 May
2006=0D
23:40<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon;=0D
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
NB=
6 and=0D
VSP on Windows<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D075343622-04052006><FONT face=
=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Not yet - I'm still looking at it in a test=0D
environment.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D075343622-04052006><FONT face=
=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D075343622-04052006><FONT face=
=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>How would you backup open windows files on=
Windows 2000=0D
without it? It's quite likely that people leave Outlook open on their=
desktop=0D
at the end of the day and in the past this has caused open file issues=
(as=0D
well as any documents they might be working on).</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> WEAVER, Simon=0D
[mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 5 May=
2006=0D
2:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Wilkinson, Tim;=0D
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
NB=
6 and=0D
VSP on Windows<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268405316-04052006><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Cons: Backups can fail with status=0D
156</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268405316-04052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>Pros: Well I dont use it - and even with AD, its not even=
used.=0D
and yet it still gets backed up!</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268405316-04052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268405316-04052006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff>VSP/VSS within Netbackup will need disk space. Have you=
tried it=0D
yet?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=3D2><FONT=0D
face=3DArial><FONT=0D
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=3D2><FONT=0D
face=3DArial><FONT=0D
color=3D#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></DIV>
<P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><EM><FONT color=3D#3f6296><FONT size=
=3D2><FONT=0D
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Simon=0D
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000a0=
=0D
size=3D2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows Domain=0D
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><I><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>EADS=
Astrium=0D
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><BR><FONT=
face=3DArial=0D
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3=0D
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=
=3D2><EM>Email:=0D
</EM></FONT><A href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
face=
=3DArial=0D
size=3D2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=
=3Dleft><FONT=0D
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=
Wilkinson, Tim=0D
[mailto:Tim.Wilkinson AT dsto.defence.gov DOT au] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 May
2006=
=0D
06:55<BR><B>To:</B>=
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B>=0D
[Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006><FONT face=3DArial=0D
size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006><FONT face=3DArial=0D
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a=
bit of a=0D
newbie to Netbackup (but learning shed-loads rather rapidly) and have a=
=0D
question about VSP for open file backups. I've had some people who use=
this=0D
and others who don't although I've not had any reasons for either=0D
case.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm=
wondering if=0D
it's generally a good idea on things like Windows file servers (where=0D
especially pst files are often open), DHCP and DDNS servers (non Active=
=0D
Directory DDNS). On Windows 2003, it seems VSS is better for open file=
=0D
backups (although this may be wrong).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What=
are the=0D
cons with using VSP?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2></FONT><FONT=0D
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>
<DIV align=3Dleft><BR> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D935311204-04052006></SPAN><FONT face=
=3DArial><FONT=0D
size=3D2>C<SPAN class=
=3D935311204-04052006>heers,</SPAN></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
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