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But if the VM is not running as a local administrator, thats going to cause
a problem?
I wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines on a host!! Made
need to clarify this :-)
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
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From: Roger Wilber [mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com]
Sent: 06 April 2006 15:51
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Easier? Probably. However, that would also require additional client
licenses, where as my method does not.
For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying additional client licenses
and setting up an NBU client on each virtual server but for temporary
virtual servers that aren't expected to last more than a couple of weeks, I
just couldn't.
On 4/6/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> > wrote:
Roger
Would it not be easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run either
if anyone is logged on or logged off?
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
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From: Roger Wilber [mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com
<mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com> ]
Sent: 05 April 2006 15:10
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
<mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Another possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:
While backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just add
into the backup selection something along the lines of "\\vm1\C$" where vm1
is one of the virtual machines. The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be
running as an administrative user. I create a special account for it and
change the password on a regular schedule. That allows me to backup the (in
my case test environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use.
On 4/5/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net
<mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> > wrote:
Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can
resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can
communicate with its host netbackup server, should be ok.
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a
standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine :-)
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
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<DIV><SPAN class=861053307-07042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>But if the VM is not running as a local
administrator,
thats going to cause a problem?</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=861053307-07042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>I
wasnt aware there was a license issue with VM machines on a host!! Made need to
clarify this :-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000a0 size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows
Domain Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roger Wilber
[mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 April 2006
15:51<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu]
Backing
up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Easier? Probably. However,
that would also require additional client licenses, where as my method does
not. <BR><BR>For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying additional
client licenses and setting up an NBU client on each virtual server but for
temporary virtual servers that aren't expected to last more than a couple of
weeks, I just couldn't. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 4/6/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>WEAVER,
Simon</B> <<A
href="mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net">simon.weaver AT
astrium.eads DOT net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Roger</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Would it not be
easier
to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run either if anyone is logged on
or logged off?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000a0
size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net" target=_blank><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roger Wilber [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com"
target=_blank>rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 April
2006
15:10<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu"
target=_blank>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Another
possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:<BR><BR>While
backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just add into
the backup selection something along the lines of "\\vm1\C$" where
vm1 is one of the virtual machines. The Netbackup client on vmhost
has to be running as an administrative user. I create a special
account for it and change the password on a regular schedule. That
allows me to backup the (in my case test environment) VMs individually as
long as they are in use. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 4/5/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>WEAVER,
Simon</B> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net"
target=_blank>simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Well think of the
virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name
resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with
its host netbackup server, should be
ok.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>We used to do
this
on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC
Client software on what it believes is a physical machine
:-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Thanks</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr"><SPAN>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000a0
size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support <BR>Windows Domain
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS
Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN
lang=en-gb><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage
Road,
Portsmouth, PO3 5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net" target=_blank><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT
net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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