Veritas-bu

[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers

2006-04-06 10:50:55
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
From: rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com (Roger Wilber)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:50:55 -0400
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Easier?  Probably.  However, that would also require additional client
licenses, where as my method does not.

For long lived virtual servers, I can see buying additional client licenses
and setting up an NBU client on each virtual server but for temporary
virtual servers that aren't expected to last more than a couple of weeks, I
just couldn't.

On 4/6/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:
>
> *Roger*
> *Would it not be easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can run
> either if anyone is logged on or logged off?*
>
> *Regards*
>
> *Simon Weaver
> 3rd Line Technical Support
> Windows Domain Administrator*
>
> *EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)*
> *Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU*
>
> *Email: **Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net* <Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads 
> DOT net>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Roger Wilber [mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com]
> *Sent:* 05 April 2006 15:10
> *To:* WEAVER, Simon
> *Cc:* veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
>
> Another possibility exists, especially for temporary test setups:
>
> While backing up the the Windows VM host (lets call it vmhost), I just ad=
d
> into the backup selection something along the lines of  "\\vm1\C$" where =
vm1
> is one of the virtual machines.  The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be
> running as an administrative user.  I create a special account for it and
> change the password on a regular schedule.  That allows me to backup the =
(in
> my case test environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use.
>
> On 4/5/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:
> >
> >  *Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can
> > resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can
> > communicate with its host netbackup server, should be ok.*
> > **
> > *We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) It=
s
> > a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine=
 :-)
> > *
> > **
> > *Thanks*
> >
> > *Regards*
> >
> > *Simon Weaver
> > 3rd Line Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator*
> >
> > *EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)*
> > *Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU*
> >
> > *Email: **Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net* <Simon.Weaver AT 
> > Astrium-eads DOT net=
>
> >
>
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Easier?&nbsp; Probably.&nbsp; However, that would also require additional c=
lient licenses, where as my method does not. <br><br>For long lived virtual=
 servers, I can see buying additional client licenses and setting up an NBU=
 client on each virtual server but for temporary virtual servers that aren'=
t expected to last more than a couple of weeks, I just couldn't.
<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4/6/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sende=
rname">WEAVER, Simon</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT 
ne=
t">simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote 
class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p=
t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"direction: ltr;">






<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial"><strong><em>Roger</em></s=
trong></font></span></div>
<div><span><strong><em><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial">Would it not =
be easier to apply the NBU Client? That way, it can=20
run either if anyone is logged on or logged=20
off?</font></em></strong></span></div>
<p align=3D"left"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><em><font color=3D"#3f6296"><font si=
ze=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff">Regards</font></font>=
</font></font></em></span></p>
<p align=3D"left"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><em><font color=3D"#3f6296"><font si=
ze=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff">Simon Weaver</font><b=
r></font></font></font><font color=3D"#0000a0" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><s=
trong>3rd Line Technical Support
<br>Windows=20
Domain Administrator</strong></font></em><font face=3D"Arial"> </font></spa=
n></p>
<p><span lang=3D"en-gb"><i><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2=
">EADS Astrium=20
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</font></i></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><br><font col=
or=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><em>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO=
3=20
5PU</em></font></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><=
em>Email:=20
</em></font><a href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><em>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT 
net</em></font></a></span><=
/p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-right: 0px;">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left" lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Roger Wilber=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rogerwilber AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank" 
onclic=
k=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rogerwilber AT gmail DOT 
com</a=
>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 05 April 2006=20
  15:10<br><b>To:</b> WEAVER, Simon<br><b>Cc:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" target=3D"_blank" 
on=
click=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email protected]=
ng.auburn.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing=20
  up virtual servers<br><br></font></div>Another possibility exists, especi=
ally=20
  for temporary test setups:<br><br>While backing up the the Windows VM hos=
t=20
  (lets call it vmhost), I just add into the backup selection something alo=
ng=20
  the lines of&nbsp; &quot;\\vm1\C$&quot; where vm1 is one of the virtual m=
achines.&nbsp;=20
  The Netbackup client on vmhost has to be running as an administrative=20
  user.&nbsp; I create a special account for it and change the password on =
a=20
  regular schedule.&nbsp; That allows me to backup the (in my case test=20
  environment) VMs individually as long as they are in use. <br><br>
  <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4/5/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"=
>WEAVER,=20
  Simon</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net" 
target=3D"=
_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">simon.weav=
er AT astrium.eads DOT net</a>&gt;=20
  wrote:</span>
  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=
, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
    <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">
    <div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial"><strong><em>Well thin=
k of the=20
    virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can resolve name resolu=
tion,=20
    is not blocked by any firewalls, and can communicate with its host netb=
ackup=20
    server, should be ok.</em></strong></font></span></div>
    <div><span><strong><em><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial"></font></=
em></strong></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span><strong><em><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial">We used t=
o do this on=20
    NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a standard PC Client=
=20
    software on what it believes is a physical machine=20
    :-)</font></em></strong></span></div>
    <div><span><strong><em><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial"></font></=
em></strong></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span><strong><em><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial">Thanks</f=
ont></em></strong></span></div></div>
    <div style=3D"direction: ltr;"><span>
    <p align=3D"left"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><em><font color=3D"#3f6296"><fon=
t size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff">Regards</font></f=
ont></font></font></em></span></p>
    <p align=3D"left"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><em><font color=3D"#3f6296"><fon=
t size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#0000ff">Simon=20
    Weaver</font><br></font></font></font><font color=3D"#0000a0" face=3D"A=
rial" size=3D"2"><strong>3rd Line Technical Support <br>Windows Domain=20
    Administrator</strong></font></em><font face=3D"Arial"> </font></span><=
/p>
    <p><span lang=3D"en-gb"><i><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=
=3D"2">EADS Astrium=20
    Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</font></i></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><br><font=
 color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><em>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth=
, PO3=20
    5PU</em></font></span></p>
    <p><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"=
2"><em>Email:=20
    </em></font><a href=3D"mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net" 
target=3D"=
_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><font face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><em>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT 
net</em></font></a></sp=
an></p>
</span></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote>

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