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Hi Jonathan
Can I ask why everyone cannot do this? If the VM are live boxes (and I know
many sites that use them as live machines), would it not be easier to place
a netbackup client software on the boxes and just treat them as physical
machines, rather than use downtime, copy the files to an alternaitve
location and then back them up.
Yes it can be done your way, just wondering why the client cannot be
installed?
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
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From: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com]
Sent: 05 April 2006 15:07
To: WEAVER, Simon; Hindle, Greg; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Not everyone can do this, but if you can spare the downtime I've scripted in
the past a brief suspend, File Copy to Another Directory and then Resume the
Virtual Session. You can backup that copy of the system whenever is
convenient, and you have a simple way to restore.
-Jonathan
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:48 AM
To: 'Hindle, Greg'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Well think of the virtual server as a physical one. As long as it can
resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls, and can
communicate with its host netbackup server, should be ok.
We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed :-) Its a
standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical machine :-)
Thanks
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
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From: Hindle, Greg [mailto:Greg.Hindle AT constellation DOT com]
Sent: 05 April 2006 14:42
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But wanted to see how others
were handling virtual servers.
Greg
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From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:29 AM
To: Hindle, Greg; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Greg
Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual Servers? VS that
are on a HOST Machine?
If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup Client on EACH virtual
machine and ensure it can see the Master.
In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of the "Virtual
Machine" and restore single files.
You should still backup the Master Host Machine too :-)
does this help?
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
Email: <mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net> Simon.Weaver AT
Astrium-eads DOT net
-----Original Message-----
From: Hindle, Greg [mailto:Greg.Hindle AT constellation DOT com]
Sent: 05 April 2006 14:24
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers
Currently we backup up the hosting server that has the virtual server
directories. But running a restore means we have to restore the entire
server and we are not able to restore individual files. How does everyone
else backup virtual servers.
Greg
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<DIV><SPAN class=698215708-06042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Hi Jonathan</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=698215708-06042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Can I ask why everyone cannot do this? If the VM are live boxes
(and I know many sites that use them as live machines), would it not be easier
to place a netbackup client software on the boxes and just treat them as
physical machines, rather than use downtime, copy the files to an alternaitve
location and then back them up.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=698215708-06042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=698215708-06042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Yes it can be done your way, just wondering why the client cannot
be installed?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000a0 size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows
Domain Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martin,
Jonathan
(Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 April
2006
15:07<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon; Hindle, Greg;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Backing
up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=071390414-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Not everyone can do this, but if you can spare the
downtime I've scripted in the past a brief suspend, File Copy to Another
Directory and then Resume the Virtual Session. You can backup that copy
of the system whenever is convenient, and you have a simple way to
restore.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=071390414-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=071390414-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>-Jonathan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn
DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>WEAVER,
Simon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Hindle,
Greg'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Backing up virtual servers<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=895024513-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Well think of the virtual server as a physical one.
As long as it can resolve name resolution, is not blocked by any firewalls,
and can communicate with its host netbackup server, should be
ok.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=895024513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=895024513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>We used to do this on NT4, so my guess is, not alot has changed
:-) Its a standard PC Client software on what it believes is a physical
machine :-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=895024513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=895024513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Thanks</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000a0
size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows Domain
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hindle, Greg
[mailto:Greg.Hindle AT constellation DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 April
2006
14:42<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Backing up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=204004013-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yes it does. This was my t5hinkibng as well. But
wanted
to see how others were handling virtual servers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>Greg
</FONT></SPAN></P><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> WEAVER, Simon
[mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
April 05,
2006 9:29 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Hindle, Greg;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Veritas-bu]
Backing up virtual servers<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>Greg</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Are you referring to something like Virtual PC's or virtual
Servers? VS that are on a HOST Machine?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>If so, what you could do is implement the Netbackup
Client on EACH virtual machine and ensure it can see the
Master.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>In theory, you should still be able to perform a backup of
the
"Virtual Machine" and restore single
files.</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>You should still backup the Master Host Machine too
:-)</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=225112513-05042006><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>does this help?</FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Regards</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN lang=en-gb><EM><FONT color=#3f6296><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Simon
Weaver</FONT><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000a0
size=2><STRONG>3rd Line Technical Support<BR>Windows Domain
Administrator</STRONG></FONT></EM><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><I><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-gb><BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU</EM></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Email:
</EM></FONT><A href="mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2><EM>Simon.Weaver AT Astrium-eads DOT net</EM></FONT></A></SPAN></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hindle,
Greg
[mailto:Greg.Hindle AT constellation DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 April
2006
14:24<BR><B>To:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Veritas-bu] Backing up virtual servers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!--
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently we backup up the hosting server that
has the virtual server directories. But running a restore means we have
to
restore the entire server and we are not able to restore individual
files.
How does everyone else backup virtual servers.</FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>Greg</FONT> </P><PRE>>>>
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