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[Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations

2006-03-24 15:02:00
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk backup - Storage Hardware configurations
From: tim.berger AT gmail DOT com (Tim Berger)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:02:00 -1000
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Agreed.  70MB/sec writes is disappointing but acceptable for my
requirements.  On a fast cpu machine you'll see better performance with
software raid.  That's normal.  There's lots of other reasons to go with
3ware.  Here's what led me there:

- Auto-sector repair.  With big disks, this is critical.  I've lost softwar=
e
raids in the past due to latent bad block loss that led to more than one
disk getting failed out.  All big disks have this problem.

- Very reliable driver support.  smartd support.

- Hot swap support, good management interface.

Software raid is good for some things, but I would not use it in a machine
that requires high uptime.  Each of my media servers has 24 400GB drives so
ease of managment and reliability is critical.  I used to strictly use
software raid.  No more.

On 3/23/06, Sander <sander AT humilis DOT net> wrote:
>
> Tim Berger wrote (ao):
> >    I have two Linux media servers setup with 3ware 9500S controllers
> >    using raid "50" with  seagate disks.  With our configuration this is
> >    two raid 5's of 6 disks each that are then striped together.  I get
> up
> >    to about 70MB/sec writes and 300MB/sec reads after the readahead is
> >    tweaked up.
>
> I'm not impressed at all by 70MB/sec on a raid config. I currently have
> eight Maxtor 300GB disks (slow) sw raid5 on a Marvell 8-port sata
> controller, and see at least twice as much for writing.
>
> Not to mention that the Marvell 8-port controller is much, much cheaper
> than a 3ware 9500S controller.
>
> With 3 controllers and 24 WD Raptors raid5, 500MB/sec should not be a
> problem.
>
> Can you try this for me, just for fun? It creates four 10GB files.
>
> for i in `seq 4`
> do time dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dbigfile.$i bs=3D1024k count=3D10000
> time dd if=3Dbigfile.$i of=3D/dev/null bs=3D1024k count=3D10000
> done
> time rm bigfile.*
>
> With a modern 'dd' it will also output the MB/sec speed.
>
>         Kind regards, Sander
>
> --
> Humilis IT Services and Solutions
> http://www.humilis.net
>



--
-Tim

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Agreed.&nbsp; 70MB/sec writes is disappointing but acceptable for my requir=
ements.&nbsp; On a fast cpu machine you'll see better performance with soft=
ware raid.&nbsp; That's normal.&nbsp; There's lots of other reasons to go w=
ith 3ware.&nbsp; Here's what led me there:
<br><br>- Auto-sector repair.&nbsp; With big disks, this is critical.&nbsp;=
 I've lost software raids in the past due to latent bad block loss that led=
 to more than one disk getting failed out.&nbsp; All big disks have this pr=
oblem.<br><br>
- Very reliable driver support.&nbsp; smartd support.<br><br>- Hot swap sup=
port, good management interface.<br><br>Software raid is good for some thin=
gs, but I would not use it in a machine that requires high uptime.&nbsp; Ea=
ch of my media servers has 24 400GB drives so ease of managment and reliabi=
lity is critical.&nbsp; I used to strictly use software raid.&nbsp; No more=
.
<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/23/06, <b class=3D"gmail_send=
ername">Sander</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sander AT humilis DOT 
net">sander@humilis=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border=
-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">
Tim Berger wrote (ao):<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have two Linux medi=
a servers setup with 3ware 9500S controllers<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;using raid &quot;50&quot; with&nbsp;&nbsp;seagate disks.&nbsp;&nbsp;With o=
ur configuration this is<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;two raid 5's of 6 d=
isks each that are then striped together.&nbsp;&nbsp;I get up
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to about 70MB/sec writes and 300MB/sec read=
s after the readahead is<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;tweaked up.<br><br>=
I'm not impressed at all by 70MB/sec on a raid config. I currently have<br>=
eight Maxtor 300GB disks (slow) sw raid5 on a Marvell 8-port sata
<br>controller, and see at least twice as much for writing.<br><br>Not to m=
ention that the Marvell 8-port controller is much, much cheaper<br>than a 3=
ware 9500S controller.<br><br>With 3 controllers and 24 WD Raptors raid5, 5=
00MB/sec should not be a
<br>problem.<br><br>Can you try this for me, just for fun? It creates four =
10GB files.<br><br>for i in `seq 4`<br>do time dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Dbigfi=
le.$i bs=3D1024k count=3D10000<br>time dd if=3Dbigfile.$i of=3D/dev/null bs=
=3D1024k count=3D10000
<br>done<br>time rm bigfile.*<br><br>With a modern 'dd' it will also output=
 the MB/sec speed.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;K=
ind regards, Sander<br><br>--<br>Humilis IT Services and Solutions<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.humilis.net";>http://www.humilis.net
</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-Tim

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