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[Veritas-bu] backup speed

2006-03-20 07:16:54
Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup speed
From: andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com (andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:16:54 +0000
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Yep, in the RMAN scirpt on the client you will have a section starting 
with something like:

ALLOCATE CHANNEL c1 TYPE 'SBT_TAPE'

After this you need to add this line with a block size you want, for 
example 262144 

PARMS='BLKSIZE=262144';



                cheers Andy.





"Atif Munir" <atif76 AT gmail DOT com>
20/03/2006 12:12

 
        To:     "andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com" <andrew.x.smith AT 
jpmchase DOT com>
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] backup speed


Thanks. I have made all the setting ......But for 

Also you can change the buffer size on the RMAN side too, again I can help 
you out if you don't know how to do this,
I need your help....Can you please let me know those rman settings?

Thanks a lot
regards,
atif

On 3/20/06, andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com <andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT 
com > wrote:

Ok, 

  then there are a few things to point out, firstly with a single client 
typically you will struggle to get anywhere near saturating a gigabit 
connection just to set your expectations, but you should still get better 
than you are seeing. Secondly you are using a database agent and these 
often adversely affect performance. 

However Im sure you can improve things, heres a few suggestions to start 
with. 
Firstly I'd recommend you configure your multiplexing to use only one 
drive at least to begin with, if you think you really pushing enough data 
off the client to drive two then you can set that later. 
You also really need to set the buffers on the media (this is your master 
I think?) server, this is done by setting a value in the files (which do 
not exist by default) in /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config 
NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS. For LTO3 a good starting point 
for these might be number=64 and size=262144. 
You may also need to make changes to your /etc/system file as these 
settings require sufficient system shared memory to be available, you can 
find recommended settings on support.veritas.com or I can tell you what I have 
used?? 
Also you can change the buffer size on the RMAN side too, again I can help 
you out if you don't know how to do this, 

                        cheers Andy. 





"Atif Munir" < atif76 AT gmail DOT com> 
20/03/2006 11:53 
        
        To:        "andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com" < andrew.x.smith AT 
jpmchase DOT com> 
        cc:         
        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] backup speed



I am getting 100Mbits per sec. 
I have only one client connect to the gigabit switch. and to backup 1.7TB 
of data it takes about 9 hours. either i use 3 drives or 4.

My mrtg graphs shows that I could not use more than 100Mbits per sec.
I am using rman netbackup so the option of "Allow multiple data stream is 
not highlighted but i am using 4 channels to backup data.

I have no idea where i can see NBU buffer size.

Regards,
atif

On 3/20/06, andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com < andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT 
com > wrote: 

Hi Atif, 

 Do you mean 100Mbytes or 100Mbits a second? Maximum theoretical through 
put of 1000baseT is 1000/8=125MBytes a second so 100MBytes would be very 
good, in contrast if you are getting only 100Mbits then that is failry 
poor - in this instance please post some additional information about your 
config as this is a very complex issue. Ie are the clients also connected 
on gigabit ethernet, how many clients are there, what are your 
multiplexing settings, what are your NBU buffer settings, etc, etc, etc 

               cheers Andy. 




"Atif Munir" < atif76 AT gmail DOT com> 

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20/03/2006 10:57 
        
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       Subject:        [Veritas-bu] backup speed




I have a gigabit ethernet. Recently i have installed 5 LTO Gen 3
drives. But I am not getting a very good speed. As a total I am
getting 100Mb/sec, and it take a lot of time to finish my backup.

Why I could not get a good speed.

Regards,
atif

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yep, in the RMAN scirpt on the client you 
will have a section starting with something like:</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">ALLOCATE CHANNEL c1 TYPE 'SBT_TAPE'</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">After this you need to add this line with a 
block size you want, for example 262144 </font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">PARMS='BLKSIZE=262144';</font>
<br>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; cheers Andy.</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Thanks. I have made all the setting 
......But for <br>
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Also you can change the buffer size on the RMAN side too, again I can help you 
out if you don't know how to do this,<br>
I need your help....Can you please let me know those rman settings?<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot<br>
regards,<br>
atif</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">On 3/20/06, </font><a 
href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com><font size=3 color=blue 
face="Times New Roman"><b><u>andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT 
com</u></b></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> &lt;</font><a 
href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com><font size=3 color=blue 
face="Times New Roman"><u>andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com 
</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">&gt; wrote:</font>
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Ok,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp;then there are a few things to point out, firstly with a single client 
typically you will struggle to get anywhere near saturating a gigabit 
connection just to set your expectations, but you should still get better than 
you are seeing. Secondly you are using a database agent and these often 
adversely affect performance. </font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
However Im sure you can improve things, heres a few suggestions to start with. 
</font>
<ul>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Firstly I'd recommend you configure your 
multiplexing to use only one drive at least to begin with, if you think you 
really pushing enough data off the client to drive two then you can set that 
later. </font>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">You also really need to set the buffers on 
the media (this is your master I think?) server, this is done by setting a 
value in the files (which do not exist by default) in 
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/config NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS. For 
LTO3 a good starting point for these might be number=64 and size=262144. </font>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">You may also need to make changes to your 
/etc/system file as these settings require sufficient system shared memory to 
be available, you can find recommended settings on </font><a 
href=http://support.veritas.com/ target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue 
face="sans-serif"><u>support.veritas.com</u></font></a><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"> or I can tell you what I have used?? </font>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Also you can change the buffer size on the 
RMAN side too, again I can help you out if you don't know how to do 
this,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp;cheers Andy.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
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<td width=32%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Atif Munir&quot; 
&lt;</b></font><a href=mailto:atif76 AT gmail DOT com target=_blank><font 
size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><b><u> atif76 AT gmail DOT 
com</u></b></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&gt;</b></font><font 
size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">20/03/2006 11:53</font><font size=3 
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I am getting 100Mbits per sec. <br>
I have only one client connect to the gigabit switch. and to backup 1.7TB of 
data it takes about 9 hours. either i use 3 drives or 4.<br>
<br>
My mrtg graphs shows that I could not use more than 100Mbits per sec.<br>
I am using rman netbackup so the option of &quot;Allow multiple data stream is 
not highlighted but i am using 4 channels to backup data.<br>
<br>
I have no idea where i can see NBU buffer size.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
atif<br>
<br>
On 3/20/06, </font><a href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com 
target=_blank><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New 
Roman"><b><u>andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com</u></b></font></a><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> &lt;</font><a href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase 
DOT com target=_blank><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><u> 
andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com </u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New 
Roman">&gt; wrote: </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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Hi Atif,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 
face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
 Do you mean 100Mbytes or 100Mbits a second? Maximum theoretical through put of 
1000baseT is 1000/8=125MBytes a second so 100MBytes would be very good, in 
contrast if you are getting only 100Mbits then that is failry poor - in this 
instance please post some additional information about your config as this is a 
very complex issue. Ie are the clients also connected on gigabit ethernet, how 
many clients are there, what are your multiplexing settings, what are your NBU 
buffer settings, etc, etc, etc</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cheers Andy.</font><font 
size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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face="sans-serif"><b><u>atif76 AT gmail DOT com</u></b></font></a><font size=1 
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I have a gigabit ethernet. Recently i have installed 5 LTO Gen 3<br>
drives. But I am not getting a very good speed. As a total I am<br>
getting 100Mb/sec, and it take a lot of time to finish my backup.<br>
<br>
Why I could not get a good speed.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
atif<br>
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