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I'm trying to consider organizations that might have a high turn over
where no one really knows where the data may have been before it might
have moved onto it's current box. =20
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Other than using Excel which seems a very obvious and manual process, I
was hoping someone might have had some other ideas. Especially any
automated processes. I know that some people have mentioned entries in
/etc/fstab and the like but I'm looking for a strategy that's more
centralized to the NBU master server itself.
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I realize this just might be a great wish list thing, something that
comes along with data life cycle management.
Regards,
Brian
________________________________
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Greenberg, Brian; Tschida, Tom (C)(STP);
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem location tracking for restores
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Hi
Well my gut feeling is, the Admin would "ask" a question - I was in fact
in this position - had to restore data from a server no longer existed,
but found that the server was replaced by a new box, with a new name.
=20
With the BA&R tool, simply added the new server as the destination and
the data was restored.
=20
Is this the sort of scenario you meant? Server changes were documented
using excel sheet, although its not quite a common issue now as it was 8
months ago!
=20
HTH
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator=20
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598=20
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Greenberg, Brian [mailto:Brian.Greenberg AT citadelgroup DOT com]
Sent: 07 March 2006 15:49
To: Tschida, Tom (C)(STP); veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem location tracking for
restores
I didn't see any responses to this. I would also be very
curious to know how people are tracking this kind of information.
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Regards,
Brian
bjgreenberg AT gmail DOT com
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Tschida,
Tom (C)(STP)
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:35 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Filesystem location tracking for restores
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Hello all,
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I was curious how people are tracking moves of filesystems. =20
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For example, let's say /export/home resides on serverA, then
serverA is decommissioned and replaced by serverB.
=20
Two years later, the new administrator assigned to backups has
to restore a file from /export/home, but isn't aware that it used to
reside on serverA and therefore doesn't see any backups listed because
he/she entered serverB as the client.
=20
So, the question is how are people tracking the moves....Excel
spreadsheets?
=20
Any info is appreciated.
=20
Tom Tschida
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m trying to consider =
organizations
that might have a high turn over where no one really knows where the =
data may
have been before it might have moved onto it’s current box. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Other than using Excel which seems =
a very
obvious and manual process, I was hoping someone might have had some =
other
ideas. Especially any automated processes. I know that some =
people
have mentioned entries in /etc/fstab and the like but I’m looking =
for a
strategy that’s more centralized to the NBU master server =
itself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I realize this just might be a =
great wish
list thing, something that comes along with data life cycle =
management.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'><br>
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
WEAVER, Simon
[mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 07, =
2006 9:56
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Greenberg,
Brian</st1:PersonName>; Tschida, Tom (C)(STP);
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Filesystem location tracking for restores</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Well my gut feeling is, the Admin =
would
"ask" a question - I was in fact in this position - had to =
restore
data from a server no longer existed, but found that the server was =
replaced by
a new box, with a new name.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>With the BA&R tool, simply =
added the
new server as the destination and the data was =
restored.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Is this the sort of scenario you =
meant?
Server changes were documented using excel sheet, although its not quite =
a common
issue now as it was 8 months ago!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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Windows
Domain Administrator</span></font></b><font face=3DArial><span =
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<p><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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02392-708598</span></font></i></b><font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
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Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Greenberg,
Brian</st1:PersonName> [mailto:Brian.Greenberg AT citadelgroup DOT com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 March 2006 =
15:49<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tschida, Tom =
(C)(STP);
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Filesystem location tracking for restores</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I didn't see any responses to =
this.
I would also be very curious to know how people are tracking this kind =
of
information.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'><br>
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:navy'>Brian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span =
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color:navy'><a =
href=3D"mailto:bjgreenberg AT gmail DOT com">bjgreenberg AT gmail DOT
com</a><o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>
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size=3D2
face=3DVerdana><span =
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font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tschida, Tom (C)(STP)<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February =
24, 2006
4:35 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
Filesystem
location tracking for restores</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hello =
all,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I was curious how people are =
tracking
moves of filesystems. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>For example, let's say /export/home
resides on serverA, then serverA is decommissioned and replaced by =
serverB.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Two years later, the new =
administrator
assigned to backups has to restore a file from /export/home, but isn't =
aware
that it used to reside on serverA and therefore doesn't see any backups =
listed
because he/she entered serverB as the =
client.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>So, the question is how are people
tracking the moves....Excel spreadsheets?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Any info is =
appreciated.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Tom =
Tschida</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Guidant =
Corporation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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