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[Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups

2006-01-31 13:03:23
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:03:23 -0700
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Oh - and to answer your question, we just NFS mount the filers to a central
box & backup via NFS.  Not very efficient but we didn't want to spend the
drives for dedicated backups.  
 
We're consisdering it now that our backups have grown so huge - it may pay
us back on time savings.
 
-M

-----Original Message----
From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:46 AM
To: 'Paul Keating'; Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups


Just FYI: although the v6.0 feature list has shared drives for NDMP, both
Netapp & Veritas say it doesn't work.
 
Coming soon to a patch kit near you, I guess.  It takes a pretty high level
of OnTap, too.  Something to verify.
 
-M

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Paul Keating
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:27 AM
To: Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups


I'm currently backing up a pair of NetApp gf940 filers, using Netbackup
5.0MP4 on a Solaris 8 master, with HP LTO3 drives in a STKL700 library.
The master is configured as the robotic control host.
 
Drive(s) MUST be dedicated to the filer in pre NB6.0 versions
 
I have a pair of LTO3 drives zoned to the "tape" HBA of the filer, created
the appropriate STU, started the daemons, and off to the races.
 
are you already backing it up and you're looking for options going forward?
or is this a new install?
 
if you need step by step config, let me know....I can write up a procedure
for you.
 
Note...NDMP restores suck.....didn't meet our SLAs for restores, snapshots
are an issue in our shop....not technically, but due to some wierd
policies...but anyway, drop me a line if you need more info on getting it
going.
 
Paul
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Yosifovski,
Tammy
Sent: January 31, 2006 9:01 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups



Solaris 9, Netbackup 5.1 MP 3 
STK L700 - 5 - 9840C drives, SSO,  ACSLS 

I am reading some conflicting information so I thought I would ask the
experts.  How are all of you backing up your NAS devices?  Is anyone using
the "enhance" Netbackup 6.0/NDMP agent?  Anyone using NetApp and if so are
you dedicating drives to the backup?   

The information is greatly appreciated. 

Tammy Yosifovski 




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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=029554517-31012006>Oh - 
and to answer your question, we just NFS mount the filers to a central box 
&amp; 
backup via NFS.&nbsp; Not very efficient but we didn't want to spend the drives 
for dedicated backups.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=029554517-31012006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=029554517-31012006>We're 
consisdering it now that our backups have grown so huge - it may pay us back on 
time savings.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=029554517-31012006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=029554517-31012006>-M</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message----<BR><B>From:</B> Donaldson, Mark - 
Broomfield, 
  CO <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Paul 
  Keating'; Yosifovski, Tammy; 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
  NetApp/NAS - Backups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=678314417-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Just 
  FYI: although the v6.0 feature list has shared drives for NDMP, both Netapp 
  &amp; Veritas say it doesn't work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=678314417-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=678314417-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Coming soon to a&nbsp;patch kit near you, I guess.&nbsp; It takes a 
  pretty high level of OnTap, too.&nbsp; Something to 
verify.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=678314417-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=678314417-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>Paul 
    Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    Yosifovski, Tammy; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
    [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>I'm currently backing up a pair of NetApp gf940 filers, using 
    Netbackup 5.0MP4 on a Solaris 8 master, with HP LTO3 drives in a STKL700 
    library.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>The master is configured as&nbsp;the robotic control 
    host.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006></SPAN><SPAN 
    class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>Drive(s) MUST be dedicated to the filer in pre NB6.0 
    versions</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>I 
    have a pair of LTO3 drives zoned to the "tape" HBA of the filer, created 
the 
    appropriate STU, started the daemons, and off to the 
    races.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>are you already backing it up and you're looking for options going 
    forward? or is this a new install?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
size=2>if 
    you need step by step config, let me know....I can write up a procedure for 
    you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>Note...NDMP restores suck.....didn't meet our SLAs for restores, 
    snapshots are an issue in our shop....not technically, but due to some 
wierd 
    policies...but anyway, drop me a line if you need more info on getting it 
    going.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=603551914-31012006><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
      face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
      [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
      </B>Yosifovski, Tammy<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2006 9:01 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      [Veritas-bu] NetApp/NAS - Backups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from 
text/rtf format -->
      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Solaris 9, Netbackup 5.1 MP 3</FONT> <BR><FONT 
      face=Arial size=2>STK L700 - 5 - 9840C drives, SSO,&nbsp; ACSLS</FONT> 
</P>
      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am reading some conflicting information so I 
      thought I would ask the experts.&nbsp; How are all of you backing up your 
      NAS devices?&nbsp; Is anyone using the "enhance" Netbackup 6.0/NDMP 
      agent?&nbsp; Anyone using NetApp and if so are you dedicating drives to 
      the backup?&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></P>
      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>The information is greatly appreciated. 
      </FONT></P>
      <P><B><I><FONT face="Times New Roman">Tammy 
      Yosifovski</FONT></I></B><I></I> </P><BR><BR>
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