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[Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation

2006-01-13 10:32:56
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation
From: simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net (WEAVER, Simon)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:32:56 -0000
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Diskeeper may be worth a look, HOWEVER, I haev had MAJOR issues with this
product trying to run after a backup as it appeared to clear the archive
attribute.
 
Fragmentation is an issue, so where poss, try to defrag when backups are not
required or may JUST before a FULL Backup (that way keeps the archive bit !)
 
Good Luck
 
 

Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598 

Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net 

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com] 
Sent: 12 January 2006 20:11
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation


 
Yes, file fragmentation does cause backups to perform slowly, especially on
drives housing databases or many small files.  However, we found here that
the slowness caused by fragmentation was only 10% of our reason for slow
backups and that 90% pertained to network configuration.  I guess what I'm
getting at is that, if you mean the backup used to take 5 hours and now it
takes 6, then likely fragmentation is an issue.  However, if your backup
times are 20 hours and they should be five, then you've got bigger issues
than running scandisk on your hard drives.
 
 
-Jonathan
 

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Karl.Rossing AT Federated DOT CA
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:23 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation



I have a database volume that is 95% fragmented. I'm getting poor
performance on my backups. 

In your experience, has file fragmentation caused slow performance on
Windows systems? 

Thanks 
Karl 



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<DIV><SPAN class=670033215-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Diskeeper may be worth a look, HOWEVER, I haev had MAJOR issues with 
this 
product trying to run after a backup as it appeared to clear the archive 
attribute.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670033215-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670033215-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Fragmentation is an issue, so where poss, try to defrag when backups are 
not required or may JUST before a FULL Backup (that way keeps the archive bit 
!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670033215-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670033215-13012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Good 
Luck</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon 
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT 
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS 
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email: 
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> 
</FONT></SPAN></P>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martin, 
Jonathan 
  (Contractor) [mailto:JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 12 
January 2006 
  20:11<BR><B>To:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
  [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=208560720-12012006><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Yes, file fragmentation does cause backups to perform 
  slowly, especially on drives housing databases or many small files.&nbsp; 
  However, we found here that the slowness caused by fragmentation was only 10% 
  of our reason for slow backups and that 90% pertained to network 
  configuration.&nbsp; I guess what I'm getting at is that, if you mean the 
  backup used to take 5 hours and now it takes 6, then likely fragmentation is 
  an issue.&nbsp; However, if your backup times are 20 hours and they should be 
  five, then you've got bigger issues than running scandisk on your hard 
  drives.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Jonathan</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
  <HR tabIndex=-1>
  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn 
DOT edu 
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>Karl.Rossing AT Federated DOT CA<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 12, 
2006 12:23 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  [Veritas-bu] Windows File Fragmentation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have a database volume that is 
  95% fragmented. I'm getting poor performance on my backups.</FONT> 
  <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>In your experience, has file 
  fragmentation caused slow performance on Windows systems?</FONT> 
<BR><BR><FONT 
  face=sans-serif size=2>Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
  size=2>Karl</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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