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[Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores

2005-12-15 04:54:07
Subject: [Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores
From: ROHRBACH_MARTIN_NONLILLY AT Lilly DOT com (Martin Rohrbach NONLILLY)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:54:07 +0000
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Speaking for NDMP bacukps/restores from/to a EMC Celerra: Yes, if there 
are any files in the subdir, it gets created. We got around the "no dirs 
with DAR" prob by using 

"bplist -C xxx -s xxx -e xxx -t 19 -R /<some_dir>/*"

pipe that to a file, do some perl magic on it and feed it to bprestore. 
Also DAR doesn't work for more than 1024 files at a time so if it's a big 
directory you have to split up restores. And last but not least you have 
to be careful with some special characters such as [ or ] which have to be 
escaped before fed to bprestore (or just filter them out and restore those 
files from the GUI later). In our case it was worth the effort as it sped 
up a restore from a whole day (running into the following days backups) to 
a couple of hours.

Martin




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RE: [Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores






We're looking into this (NDMP backups) and the "can't restore a directory"
problem might be an issue.

If you want to restore a directory, then, you have to find every file from
that point down & restore it individually?  Will it create missing
subdirectories, ie:

restoredir/file1
restoredir/file2
restoredir/subdir1/file1
restoredir/subdir1/file2

...If the above was your list of files to be restored, does "subdir1" get
created?

-M

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Did you request to restore files or folders?   DAR is not supported for 
directory restores - so it is *very* important that you pick files to 
restore, and never folders.  Otherwise it scans the whole tape, even if it 

already found what you wanted.

William D L Brown




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Hi all.
 
it's been years since I've worked with NDMP much (NB 3.x and Auspex file 
servers), with 32 and 64 gig filessytems
so I'm re-learning everything with NetApp, NB5.0 and TB+ filesystems, and 
refreshing lots of old memories.
 
seems a restore, even of a couple files from a 600+ Gig FS backup (home 
directoy FS) takes HOURS....like 5-7 hours.
 
The progress monitor shows the tape mounted, positioned, etc, then sits 
there for hours with no KB/s or KB restored reported, then, bam, it's 
done.
 
this more or less normal?
 
If so, do you folks have SLAs that account for this kind of timeframe for 
restores?
or do you you snapshots exclusively for restores of user data and only use 

tape for DR?
 
Paul
 
 


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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Speaking for NDMP bacukps/restores from/to
a EMC Celerra: Yes, if there are any files in the subdir, it gets created.
We got around the &quot;no dirs with DAR&quot; prob by using </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&quot;bplist -C xxx -s xxx -e xxx -t
19 -R /&lt;some_dir&gt;/*&quot;</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">pipe that to a file, do some perl magic
on it and feed it to bprestore. Also DAR doesn't work for more than 1024
files at a time so if it's a big directory you have to split up restores.
And last but not least you have to be careful with some special characters
such as [ or ] which have to be escaped before fed to bprestore (or just
filter them out and restore those files from the GUI later). In our case
it was worth the effort as it sped up a restore from a whole day (running
into the following days backups) to a couple of hours.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Martin</font>
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<br><font size=2><tt>We're looking into this (NDMP backups) and the &quot;can't
restore a directory&quot;<br>
problem might be an issue.<br>
<br>
If you want to restore a directory, then, you have to find every file from<br>
that point down &amp; restore it individually? &nbsp;Will it create missing<br>
subdirectories, ie:<br>
<br>
restoredir/file1<br>
restoredir/file2<br>
restoredir/subdir1/file1<br>
restoredir/subdir1/file2<br>
<br>
...If the above was your list of files to be restored, does &quot;subdir1&quot;
get<br>
created?<br>
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-M<br>
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Did you request to restore files or folders? &nbsp; DAR is not supported
for <br>
directory restores - so it is *very* important that you pick files to <br>
restore, and never folders. &nbsp;Otherwise it scans the whole tape, even
if it <br>
already found what you wanted.<br>
<br>
William D L Brown<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&quot;Paul Keating&quot; &lt;pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca&gt; <br>
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Subject<br>
[Veritas-bu] time for NDMP restores<br>
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Hi all.<br>
 <br>
it's been years since I've worked with NDMP much (NB 3.x and Auspex file
<br>
servers), with 32 and 64 gig filessytems<br>
so I'm re-learning everything with NetApp, NB5.0 and TB+ filesystems, and
<br>
refreshing lots of old memories.<br>
 <br>
seems a restore, even of a couple files from a 600+ Gig FS backup (home
<br>
directoy FS) takes HOURS....like 5-7 hours.<br>
 <br>
The progress monitor shows the tape mounted, positioned, etc, then sits
<br>
there for hours with no KB/s or KB restored reported, then, bam, it's <br>
done.<br>
 <br>
this more or less normal?<br>
 <br>
If so, do you folks have SLAs that account for this kind of timeframe for
<br>
restores?<br>
or do you you snapshots exclusively for restores of user data and only
use <br>
tape for DR?<br>
 <br>
Paul<br>
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