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[Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU

2005-11-21 12:28:02
Subject: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:28:02 -0700
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You may have to pull a full media report to get more info, then:
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bperror -media -hoursago 96 -U
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Redirect it to a file & go searching for some of your tape numbers...
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-M

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Weaver [mailto:Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:27 AM
To: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com; ignacio_de_pedro AT storagetek DOT com
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes =
NBU


MArk
Just the GUI - eject volume from robot via the right click option!

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
Sent: 21 November 2005 17:15
To: Simon Weaver; ignacio_de_pedro AT storagetek DOT com
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes =
NBU


What process to you use to eject your tapes?
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-M

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Simon =
Weaver
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:44 AM
To: De Pedro, Ignacio; Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes =
NBU
5.1


Guys
Ok to confirm.....
=20
The tape labels are in the SCRATCH pool - quite how they got in there =
is a
mystery!
All I done, was ejected tapes from volume pool, replaced these tapes =
with
new tapes and/or used media expired and placed them in the Scratch =
ready for
this weekends backups!
=20
Still waiting on Veritas to contact me !!!=20
As the reports module shows nothing for the media, I can only assume =
that
somehow, Vol Manager has decided to expire these tapes (that had =
monthly
backups, weekly full and diff backups!)
=20
Quite how is a mystery! I also went to find my Catalogue Backup tape, =
and
now Netbackup does NOT see it in there! (although there is an entry in =
the
Netbackup volume pool).
=20
I have no idea now what is going on!!! I am getting very desperate now =
:(((
=20
Simon=20
=20

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of De Pedro,
Ignacio
Sent: 21 November 2005 15:16
To: Simon.Weaver
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes =
NBU
5.1


The best is going to bpdbm log to see what happens with the Images on
Medias, without see the log is very difficult to explain what =
happens...
=20
And for the tapes it=B4s easy, if you have it out of the robot, you can =
import
it...
=20
Nacho

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De: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] En nombre de
CLOWARJ AT Nationwide DOT com
Enviado el: lunes, 21 de noviembre de 2005 15:39
Para: WEAVER, Simon
CC: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Asunto: Re: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes =
NBU 5.1



=20
Simon
 I have had something like this happen, dont remember exctly what =
happened ,
or how i fixed it,=20
 Re inventory your robot first, might take a while, but it will at =
least
bring your database up to date with whats in there. this will aslo =
refresh
everything in the database, you might get that list back that way.=20
=20
    Lemme know what happens,=20
 Jeremy
Monday, November 21, 2005 9:34 AM
To: "'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'"
<veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
cc:=20
From: "WEAVER, Simon" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] No No No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU =
5.1


I am in a little shock, so hoping someone can help explain this =
mystery!
=20
I ejected approx 30 tapes from NBU 5.1 MP2 on 2003 Server. The tapes =
were
from varied volume pools.
=20
The eject process completed successfully, I stored the tapes in a safe, =
and
replaced them with either new tapes or expired Media Tapes.
=20
Weekend came and backups ran - some still going, but its working!
=20
I just decided to see what was in the scratch pool, and by luke I =
happened
to check some of the volume pools where I removed Media from them on =
Friday,
only to discover there is no record of the tapes.
=20
By record I mean, the Volume Pool would show an entry for the tape, =
even
though its not in the robot.
=20
Decided to check the other pools, and to my horror, there are no =
entries for
these tapes!!!=20
Starting to worry now, because I wonder what on earth has happened.
=20
I have noticed the SCRATCH pool is showing ALOT of Media ID's!!! =
Clearly not
in the robot, but i cannot understand what has happened!
=20
Can anyone shed any light or help?
Simon
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<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
may have to pull a full media report to get more info, then:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>bperror -media -hoursago 96 -U</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Redirect it to a file &amp; go searching for some of your tape 
numbers...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=608322617-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Simon Weaver 
  [mailto:Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 21, 
2005 10:27 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com; 
  ignacio_de_pedro AT storagetek DOT com<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
No No No 
  ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312112717-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>MArk</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=312112717-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>Just the GUI - eject volume from robot via the right 
  click option!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
  <HR tabIndex=-1>
  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn 
DOT edu 
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 November 2005 
  17:15<BR><B>To:</B> Simon Weaver; 
  ignacio_de_pedro AT storagetek DOT com<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
  veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
No No No 
  ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=915485816-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>What 
  process to you use to eject your tapes?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=915485816-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=915485816-21112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>Simon 
    Weaver<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 21, 2005 9:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B> De 
    Pedro, Ignacio; Simon.Weaver AT iscl DOT net<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] No No 
    No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>Guys</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>Ok to confirm.....</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>The tape labels are in the SCRATCH pool - quite 
how 
    they got in there is a mystery!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>All I done, was ejected tapes from volume pool, 
    replaced these tapes with new tapes and/or used media expired and placed 
    them in the Scratch ready for this weekends backups!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>Still waiting on Veritas to contact me !!! 
    </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>As the reports module shows nothing for the media, 
    I can only assume that somehow, Vol Manager has decided to expire these 
    tapes (that had monthly backups, weekly full and diff 
    backups!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>Quite how is a mystery! I also went to find my 
    Catalogue Backup tape, and now Netbackup does NOT see it in there! 
(although 
    there is an entry in the Netbackup volume pool).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
    class=343294116-21112005>I have no idea now what is going on!!! I am 
getting 
    very desperate now :(((</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
    <HR tabIndex=-1>
    <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> 
    veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of 
</B>De 
    Pedro, Ignacio<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 November 2005 15:16<BR><B>To:</B> 
    Simon.Weaver<BR><B>Cc:</B> 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] No No 
    No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=882140415-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2>The best is going to bpdbm log to see what happens 
with 
    the Images on Medias, without see the log is very difficult to explain what 
    happens...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=882140415-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=882140415-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2>And for the tapes it´s easy, if you have it out of the 
    robot, you can import it...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=882140415-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=882140415-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2>Nacho</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=es dir=ltr align=left>
    <HR tabIndex=-1>
    <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>De:</B> veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn 
DOT edu 
    [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>En nombre de 
    </B>CLOWARJ AT Nationwide DOT com<BR><B>Enviado el:</B> lunes, 21 de 
noviembre de 
    2005 15:39<BR><B>Para:</B> WEAVER, Simon<BR><B>CC:</B> 
    veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Asunto:</B> Re: [Veritas-bu] 
No No 
    No ! What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT 
    style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Simon</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;I have had something like this happen, dont remember exctly what 
    happened , or how i fixed it, </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;Re inventory your robot first, might take a while, but it will 
at 
    least bring your database up to date with whats in there. this will aslo 
    refresh everything in the database, you might get that list back that way. 
    </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lemme know what happens, </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;Jeremy</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><I>Monday, November 21, 2005 9:34 AM<BR>To: 
    "'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'" 
    &lt;veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu&gt;<BR>cc: <BR>From: "WEAVER, 
Simon" 
    &lt;simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net&gt;<BR>Subject: [Veritas-bu] No No 
No ! 
    What Have You Done With My Tapes NBU 5.1</I><BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am in a 
little 
    shock, so hoping someone can help explain this mystery!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I ejected 
approx 
    30 tapes from NBU 5.1 MP2 on 2003 Server. The tapes were from varied volume 
    pools.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>The eject 
    process completed successfully, I stored the tapes in a safe, and replaced 
    them with either new tapes or expired Media Tapes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Weekend came 
and 
    backups ran - some still going, but its working!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just decided 
    to see what was in the scratch pool, and by luke I happened to check some 
of 
    the volume pools where I removed Media from them on Friday, only to 
discover 
    there is no record of the tapes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>By record I 
    mean, the Volume Pool would show an entry for the tape, even though its not 
    in the robot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Decided to 
check 
    the other pools, and to my horror, there are no entries for these tapes!!! 
    </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Starting to 
    worry now, because I wonder what on earth has happened.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have noticed 
    the SCRATCH pool is showing ALOT of Media ID's!!! Clearly not in the robot, 
    but i cannot understand what has happened!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone shed 
    any light or help?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=182531414-21112005><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>Simon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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