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Thanks - I came in this morning to find its STILL running, so have
cancelled, changed the client properties to time stamp and will see how this
goes!
Thanks again
Simon Weaver
Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Tel: 02392-708598
Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
-----Original Message-----
From: King, Cheryl [mailto:cheryl.king AT intrado DOT com]
Sent: 16 November 2005 16:15
To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Problem with Full / Incr Backup
There must be something changing the attributes on the files. Here are some
links about the file attributes and in particular the archive bit. I had
problems when we first tried to convert our backups from Backup Exec to
NetBackup. The archive bit was set by the backup software that ran first so
the next one wouldn't back files up.
ATTRIB is the command to view attributes. I would investigate this further
and try to determine what's causing this.
You could try this: In Client Properties->Windows Client->Client Settings,
the default for Incrementals is Based on archive bit. Change it to Based on
timestamps.
Here are a couple of links about the file attributes and backups.
http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/72.html
<http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/72.html>
http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy06.htm <http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy06.htm>
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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:39 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Problem with Full / Incr Backup
Morning
I have a really strange problem, that I cannot understand myself, but hoping
someone can help!
On Friday, I scheduled a FULL backup on a client computer - holds 2TB of
Data. I streamed the backups so the following drive letters were backed up
as follows:
L:, P:, Q:, M:, N:, O: & R:
Came in Monday and got error 96 - no more tapes available for 2 streams
(Drives R: & O: did not complete). The remainder drive letters were backed
up successfully. I then performed a full backup on these 2 letters again
after putting more tapes into the Robot. This now completed successfully.
Yesterday, I ran the normal Incremental Policy for the same drive letters. I
have come in this morning to find that drive letters N: & L: are still
running, and in fact M:, P: & Q: took OVER 20 hours to do!!
There has been no large amounts of Data placed on these drives, yet it seems
to be doing what looks like a full backup. The Incrmental for drive letters
R: & O: completed in under 30 mins.
I dont want to stop the 2 streams running in case Netbackup starts all over
again. Can anyone guide me as to where I could start looking into this
problem?
Yours
Simon
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size=2>Thanks
- I came in this morning to find its STILL running, so have cancelled, changed
the client properties to time stamp and will see how this
goes!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Simon
Weaver</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Support</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Windows Domain Administrator</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><I><FONT face=Arial size=2>EADS
Astrium</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT><B></B><B><I><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Tel: 02392-70</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>8598</FONT></I></B><I></I><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=en-gb><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Email:
Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> King, Cheryl
[mailto:cheryl.king AT intrado DOT com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 November 2005
16:15<BR><B>To:</B> WEAVER, Simon;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu]
Problem
with Full / Incr Backup<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There must be
something changing the attributes on the files. Here are some links about the
file attributes and in particular the archive bit. I had problems when
we first tried to convert our backups from Backup Exec to NetBackup.
The
archive bit was set by the backup software that ran first so the next one
wouldn't back files up.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ATTRIB is the
command
to view attributes. I would investigate this further and try to
determine what's causing this.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You could try
this: In Client Properties->Windows Client->Client Settings, the
default for Incrementals is Based on archive bit. Change it to Based on
timestamps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here are a couple of
links about the file attributes and backups.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/72.html";>http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/72.html</A>
<A
href="http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy06.htm";>http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy06.htm</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>WEAVER, Simon<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:39
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Veritas-bu] Problem with Full
/
Incr Backup</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a really strange problem,
that I cannot understand myself, but hoping someone can
help!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On Friday, I scheduled a FULL
backup on a client computer - holds 2TB of Data. I streamed the backups so
the
following drive letters were backed up as
follows:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">L:, P:, Q:, M:, N:, O: &
R:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Came in Monday and got error 96 -
no more tapes available for 2 streams (Drives R: & O: did not complete).
The remainder drive letters were backed up successfully. I then performed a
full backup on these 2 letters again after putting more tapes into the Robot.
This now completed successfully.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yesterday, I ran the normal
Incremental Policy for the same drive letters. I have come in this morning to
find that drive letters N: & L: are still running, and in fact M:, P:
& Q: took OVER 20 hours to do!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There has been no large amounts
of
Data placed on these drives, yet it seems to be doing what looks like a full
backup. The Incrmental for drive letters R: & O: completed in under 30
mins.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I dont want to stop the 2 streams
running in case Netbackup starts all over again. Can anyone guide me as to
where I could start looking into this
problem?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Yours</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Simon</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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