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[Veritas-bu] RFC Curiosity - Changing tapes

2005-10-31 09:17:32
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RFC Curiosity - Changing tapes
From: jlightner AT water DOT com (Jeff Lightner)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:17:32 -0500
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At 3 different employers we did change control but I NEVER had to do a =
change control for tape management.   Change Control is typically aimed =
at making sure you don't take down live Production.

I did work at one pharmaceutical which required FDA "Validation" which =
meant ALL processes and procedures had to be documented.   In that case =
you don't have to write a change control unless the document you wrote =
requires it.   Most documents simply indicated under what conditions the =
procedure would be executed (typically for something like this it would =
just be a service ticket rather than a change control [we didn't call =
them RFCs]).   Unless you're under some extreme federal regulation like =
pharmaceuticals were I wouldn't think you'd even be required to document =
it let alone do an RFC.

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Whelan
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To: Veritas-Bu (E-mail)
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RFC Curiosity - Changing tapes

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For those of you who are fortunate enough to have change control, and =
therefore request for same, how many of you have to submit a RFC to take =
out frozen tapes and replace them with new tapes. And what to do you put =
for systems and areas affected?

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Regards,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At 3 different employers we did =
change
control but I NEVER had to do a change control for tape =
management.=A0=A0 Change
Control is typically aimed at making sure you don&#8217;t take down live
Production.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did work at one pharmaceutical =
which
required FDA &#8220;Validation&#8221; which meant ALL processes and =
procedures
had to be documented.=A0 =A0In that case you don&#8217;t have to write a =
change
control unless the document you wrote requires it.=A0=A0 Most documents =
simply
indicated under what conditions the procedure would be executed =
(typically for
something like this it would just be a service ticket rather than a =
change control
[we didn&#8217;t call them RFCs]).=A0=A0 Unless you&#8217;re under some =
extreme
federal regulation like pharmaceuticals were I wouldn&#8217;t think =
you&#8217;d
even be required to document it let alone do an =
RFC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] RFC
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"\0022MS Sans Serif\0022"'>For those of you who are =
fortunate
enough to have change control, and therefore request for same, how many =
of you
have to submit a RFC to take out frozen tapes and replace them with new =
tapes.
And what to do you put for systems and areas =
affected?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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