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2005-10-05 14:43:13
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog backup question
From: WBedour AT lear DOT com (BeDour, Wayne)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:43:13 -0400 
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Here was my original thinking on this.  Because our catalog backup to
tape was taking too long we went to disk.  The disk backup is also
copied to another offsite datacenter via srdf.  This only gives me a
backup catalog for 24 hours and I don't feel real comfortable with that.
Numerous posts state that a NetBackup tape can be restored via tar after
bypassing the headers.  Isn't it possible to copy the tape via tar back
down to my catalog disk backup area then restore the catalog from there?
My personal opinion is that NetBackup doesn't make backing up and
keeping offsite copies of their catalog very easy or timely.  Bottom
line is I'm just trying to add a little more insurance to the catalog
backups but don't want to waste the resources if this isn't necessary.

Opinions or ideas how others are doing this are appreciated.  Thanks in
advance.

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Wayne BeDour

IT Unix System Administrator

PH: 313-240-3374  FAX: 313-240-3065

Internet:  wbedour AT lear DOT com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com [mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:02 PM
To: BeDour, Wayne; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Catalog backup question

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If you backup your catalog via an NB policy then you'll have to install
NB & the catalog in order to restore the catalog.  Very circular.  The
bysyncinfo method uses a simple tar to tape so that Netbackup is not
required to be installed in order to read the tape.

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So, in short, "yes" you can back it up but "no" it's not usable to
restore Netbackup.

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-M

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of BeDour,
Wayne
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:20 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Catalog backup question

Our environment is:

Netbackup Enterprise 5.1

Master Server on HP-UX 11i

Media Server on HP-UX 11i

SureStore 20/700 Library (LTO-1)

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We are currently backing up our catalog to disk.  If I also back this
catalog disk image to tape via a normal NetBackup policy can I use this
for my offsite catalog backup?  Or do I have to run "bpsynacinfo
-doBackup" and point it to tape to have a valid catalog backup on tape?

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Wayne BeDour

IT Unix System Administrator

PH: 313-240-3374  FAX: 313-240-3065

Internet:  wbedour AT lear DOT com

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here was my original thinking on
this.&nbsp; Because our catalog backup to tape was taking too long we =
went to
disk.&nbsp; The disk backup is also copied to another offsite datacenter =
via
srdf.&nbsp; This only gives me a backup catalog for 24 hours and I =
don&#8217;t
feel real comfortable with that.&nbsp; Numerous posts state that a =
NetBackup
tape can be restored via tar after bypassing the headers.&nbsp; =
Isn&#8217;t it
possible to copy the tape via tar back down to my catalog disk backup =
area then
restore the catalog from there?&nbsp; My personal opinion is that =
NetBackup
doesn&#8217;t make backing up and keeping offsite copies of their =
catalog very easy
or timely.&nbsp; Bottom line is I&#8217;m just trying to add a little =
more
insurance to the catalog backups but don&#8217;t want to waste the =
resources if
this isn&#8217;t necessary.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Opinions or ideas how others are =
doing
this are appreciated.&nbsp; Thanks in advance.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Wayne BeDour</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>IT Unix System =
Administrator</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>PH: 313-240-3374&nbsp; FAX: =
313-240-3065</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Internet:&nbsp; =
</span></font><font
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style=3D'color:navy'>wbedour AT lear DOT com</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
[mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October =
04, 2005
7:02 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BeDour, Wayne;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] =
Catalog
backup question</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you backup =
your
catalog via an NB policy then you'll have to install NB &amp; the =
catalog in
order to restore the catalog.&nbsp; Very circular.&nbsp; The bysyncinfo =
method
uses a simple tar to tape so that Netbackup is not required to be =
installed in
order to read the tape.</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>So, in short,
&quot;yes&quot; you can back it up but &quot;no&quot; it's not usable to
restore Netbackup.</span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>BeDour, Wayne<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 03, =
2005
11:20 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] =
Catalog
backup question</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Our environment =
is:</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Netbackup Enterprise =
5.1</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Master Server on HP-UX =
11i</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Media Server on HP-UX =
11i</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>SureStore 20/700 Library =
(LTO-1)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We are currently backing up =
our
catalog to disk.&nbsp; If I also back this catalog disk image to tape =
via a
normal NetBackup policy can I use this for my offsite catalog =
backup?&nbsp; Or
do I have to run &quot;bpsynacinfo -doBackup&quot; and point it to tape =
to have
a valid catalog backup on tape?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Wayne BeDour</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>IT Unix System =
Administrator</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>PH: 313-240-3374&nbsp; FAX: =
313-240-3065</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Internet:&nbsp; =
wbedour AT lear DOT com</span></font></p>

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