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[Veritas-bu] Backing up a VMware ESX environment - how many license will I need

2005-10-04 08:10:14
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up a VMware ESX environment - how many license will I need
From: ashby AT hersheys DOT com (Ashby, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:10:14 -0400
We use ESX Ranger to Hotbackup our Production ESX boxes to single
storage server - then backup that server (and the images) to tape.

Andrew 

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up a VMware ESX environment - how many
license will I need

We back up just the VMs, using their native client - RedHat or Windows.

We looked at backing up the ESX server, using the RedHat client, but 
decided it was easier to rebuild it.

For licences you need one for each *type* of OS you run on any item of 
hardware.  So if you want to back up the ESX server, you need a RedHat 
Client & licence.  If you run RedHat VMs, you don't need any more 
licences, they can just use the one you got.   You then need a licence
for 
each 'guest' OS, but as you say you have Windows licences.  They will 
cover you no matter how many Windows VMs you run on the ESX server.

So it sounds that if you choose to backup the ESX server, you must buy a

RedHat client licence.  If you don't back it up, you have already have
all 
the licences you need.

William D L Brown




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We have implemented a VMware ESX environment which goes into production
in 
about 2 weeks.  Currently there are two Windows servers, that are 
clustered, moving to the new enviroment.  I have a Veritas NBU client on

each one and am backing up ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES. 
The new environment will be 2 ESX servers and 2 Virtual Machines (VMs)
to 
start, adding 2 more ESX servers and 2 or 3 more VMs very soon.  I have 
read the Vmware ESX Server Backup Planning white paper.  I know we need
to 
backup up the 2 virtual machines because the users of this application 
require file-level restores on a regular basis.  We'll just use the 2 
existing licenses for that. 
Our old DR plan was fix the hardware, install the OS, restore the data 
using NBU.  Now that the environment is more complex, that won't work.
BTW 
this isn't a highly visible application.  It's data used to generate 
various reports for our customers.  There are only a few internal users,

so cost is an issue. 
I'm wondering how other people are doing backups and recovery in an
Vmware 
ESX environment.  I understand that we could back up the Service
Consoles 
and Virtual Disk Files but would that require one more NBU license per
ESX 
server?  The data will now reside on a SAN, D280.  We don't have the 
Santricity snapshot option or whatever it's called on the D280.  I need
to 
look into that and get a cost, but we'd still need to back up the
Service 
Consoles, right?  Please share what you're doing in this environment. 
Thanks. 
We have Vertias Enterprise 5.1MP2 running on Solaris 8 Master and Media 
server 
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