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[Veritas-bu] What are you NOT backing up?

2005-05-18 19:28:50
Subject: [Veritas-bu] What are you NOT backing up?
From: Michael.F.Lavelle AT abbott DOT com (Michael F Lavelle)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:50 -0500
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David,
        Even if your backup policies are set to backup a certain directory 
tree or filesystem, the goodies' coverage script will not tell you 
anything about frequency of backups or retention.
        More importantly, no 3rd party tool will inform you about 
dependencies an application has on all data, binaries, configuration 
files, device drivers, etc...  That is still something you and your 
customers have to define and prove thru DR testing.


        Just what kind of Chotsky's did you get from Aptare?

 

 Michael F. Lavelle                               Abbott Labs, 
 Sr. Storage Engineer, CIT                   100 Abbott Park Rd,  AP14B-1
 Phone: 847.937.1195 (Fx:935.9725)   Abbott Park  IL  60064-6042






David Rock <dave-bu AT graniteweb DOT com>
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05/18/2005 05:13 PM
Please respond to David Rock

 
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How many times have you been asked this question?

 "What are we NOT backing up?"
   or the ever popular,
 "What do you mean we're not backing up clientA?!? Didn't you know we
 added it last month?"

Usually, this is being asked by someone that doesn't understand the
question, or the amount of pain you have to go through to get the
answer. You could do a bpcoverage, but that is time-consuming and
doesn't tell you anything about clients you don't know about at all. 

We just got a look at Aptare's new Discovery module for Storage Console
and it looks like it addresses these and other questions. It's using
bpcoverage, but it's also pulling different data from SNMP and other
sources to give an overall picture of what's out there that you don't
know about because department X didn't think to tell you. Which, of
course, won't matter when they ask for a restore on a box you aren't
backing up.

It definitely has some potential. I would recommend getting a
livemeeting with Aptare to take a look at it if you are in an
environment where what you don't know CAN hurt you. ;-)

-- 
David Rock
david AT graniteweb DOT com



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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">David,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Even if your backup 
policies are set to backup a certain directory tree or filesystem, the goodies' 
coverage script will not tell you anything about frequency of backups or 
retention.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; More importantly, no 
3rd party tool will inform you about dependencies an application has on all 
data, binaries, configuration files, device drivers, etc... &nbsp;That is still 
something you and your customers have to define and prove thru DR 
testing.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Just what kind of 
Chotsky's did you get from Aptare?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
<br>
 Michael F. Lavelle &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Abbott Labs, <br>
 Sr. Storage Engineer, CIT &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; 100 Abbott Park Rd, &nbsp;AP14B-1<br>
 Phone: 847.937.1195 (Fx:935.9725) &nbsp; Abbott Park &nbsp;IL 
&nbsp;60064-6042<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>David Rock &lt;dave-bu AT graniteweb DOT 
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">How many times have you been asked this 
question?<br>
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 &quot;What are we NOT backing up?&quot;<br>
 &nbsp; or the ever popular,<br>
 &quot;What do you mean we're not backing up clientA?!? Didn't you know we<br>
 added it last month?&quot;<br>
<br>
Usually, this is being asked by someone that doesn't understand the<br>
question, or the amount of pain you have to go through to get the<br>
answer. You could do a bpcoverage, but that is time-consuming and<br>
doesn't tell you anything about clients you don't know about at all. <br>
<br>
We just got a look at Aptare's new Discovery module for Storage Console<br>
and it looks like it addresses these and other questions. It's using<br>
bpcoverage, but it's also pulling different data from SNMP and other<br>
sources to give an overall picture of what's out there that you don't<br>
know about because department X didn't think to tell you. Which, of<br>
course, won't matter when they ask for a restore on a box you aren't<br>
backing up.<br>
<br>
It definitely has some potential. I would recommend getting a<br>
livemeeting with Aptare to take a look at it if you are in an<br>
environment where what you don't know CAN hurt you. ;-)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
David Rock<br>
david AT graniteweb DOT com<br>
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